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Questions for the Mac users

Leftist Protozoa said:
I'm thinking about making the leap from PC to Mac.

Is it worth it?

What do you like/dislike about your Macs?
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it's quite different but once you're used to it I think it's the same. Maybe there are less bugs than on microsoft, and less viruses too.
 
Leftist Protozoa said:
I'm thinking about making the leap from PC to Mac.

Is it worth it?

What do you like/dislike about your Macs?
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I love my mac. To bits. There's just so much about it that I adore over Windows.

There are no drivers for any hardware, for instance. You plug in an external keyboard, it has you type out a few letters, and it's automatically calibrated. You don't have to mess around with any of that.
Even a lowish-end Mac can run way more programs at a time than an average PC. I'm usually running at least iTunes, Firefox, Photoshop, Skype, Adium, and Azureus, and there's very little extraneous loading time like you get every time you move the mouse on a PC.
Macs are far more user-friendly. Organizing things on a Mac is way easier than on a Windows computer because you have the ability to switch between different programs with Exposé, which is basically this:
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All the windows shrink so you can click on whichever one you need. There are a bunch of things like that on Macs too, like the new Spaces and stuff.

That isn't to say Macs are perfect. They crash occasionally and the hardware can be bad. But since Apple makes the hardware too, all you have to do is send your computer away and you'll get it back generally hassle-free. But the fact that, for example, when I broke my keyboard on my Mac, I just plugged an external one in and used it even though it was bulky and annoying instead of switching to my PC again shows that even when it's bad, it's better than a PC. Usually.
 
Good info, guys.

Do they all have internal wireless modems... and will it detect and connect to the same wireless router I have that broadcasts to the PCs in the house?

Will I have any problems moving document files from my old PC to a Mac?
 
Gunface said:
I love my mac. To bits. There's just so much about it that I adore over Windows.

There are no drivers for any hardware, for instance. You plug in an external keyboard, it has you type out a few letters, and it's automatically calibrated. You don't have to mess around with any of that.
Even a lowish-end Mac can run way more programs at a time than an average PC. I'm usually running at least iTunes, Firefox, Photoshop, Skype, Adium, and Azureus, and there's very little extraneous loading time like you get every time you move the mouse on a PC.
Macs are far more user-friendly. Organizing things on a Mac is way easier than on a Windows computer because you have the ability to switch between different programs with Exposé, which is basically this:
Exposeleopardall.png

All the windows shrink so you can click on whichever one you need. There are a bunch of things like that on Macs too, like the new Spaces and stuff.

That isn't to say Macs are perfect. They crash occasionally and the hardware can be bad. But since Apple makes the hardware too, all you have to do is send your computer away and you'll get it back generally hassle-free. But the fact that, for example, when I broke my keyboard on my Mac, I just plugged an external one in and used it even though it was bulky and annoying instead of switching to my PC again shows that even when it's bad, it's better than a PC. Usually.
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The problem with Macs is that people cannot up grade them like a PC. That makes people buy a whole new system when the only thing that needs to be upgraded is the CPU. Also there are much, much more components you can buy for a PC that Apple does not support.
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Don't ya think there was a reason for Intel processors now being used in the Macs now? Mac cannot offer what Intel has to offer.
Macs are not Macs anymore except perhaps the Mac OSs.
Macs will become PCs soon but remember its not that far away that Desktop Personal Computers will not be made anymore.
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When something breaks on a PC you don't need to ship it anywhere. The big stores or the Mom and Pop stores will repair or add new hardware as needed.
 
Sergeant Stinger1 said:
When something breaks on a PC you don't need to ship it anywhere. The big stores or the Mom and Pop stores will repair or add new hardware as needed.
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Are you kidding me? When my PC broke I had to wait over a month to get it fixed in order to not have to pay a ridiculous amount of money.
 
I'd have to echo what Gunface said. I had a new Acer laptop, and it failed on a regular basis. I sent it to the manufacturer three times. They eventually just gave me my money back. I'm sort of amazed I didn't make the jump to Mac back then.
 
YouTube - Anti-Macintosh


haha..

I love the fact that macs use a *nix backend.. but that's about all I like about them.

I've built all my own PCs and run / ran linux/freebsd on all of them, until this one and I'm running Windows XP pro without problems.

Macintosh's used to be expensive because they were awesome hardware.. now they're regular x86 hardware... and still ridiculously expensive. :(

My favorite saying with them is.. So user friendly they're not configurable.
 
new coup for you said:
macs are for hipster douchebags
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That's sort of what I think of Linux people.

I started out with a Tandy that ran Deskmate almost twenty years ago. Ever since, I have been dealing with Microsoft products. I'm just getting tired of the bugs, glitches, lock-ups, security issues, overheating, and occasional complete crashes.

Apple stuff might not be much better, but at least it's different. In the absence of better, sometimes I'll take different.
 
new coup for you said:
Linux is for people who have watched Akira over a hundred times
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Thank god I only saw it 99. I hope I also get points for never understanding it. I'll buy almost anything that shows up in the $5.99 bin at Wal-Mart as long as it doesn't appear to be about a girl who becomes a princess, or star Pauly Shore.
 
new coup for you said:
Linux is for people who have watched Akira over a hundred times
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:confused:

I'm lost...

What is FreeBSD for? If you've got such a hilarious quip for every os... lets see it.

Don't hold back little princess.
 
Gunface said:
Are you kidding me? When my PC broke I had to wait over a month to get it fixed in order to not have to pay a ridiculous amount of money.
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If you don't know how to repair your own puter then how do you know what a ridiculous price is?
OR, if they are that bad around your town then just study up a little and open up a puter repair store and your a millionare!
 
Odd logic there. :confused:

What difference does it make if you can repair a computer? I think most anyone would define a "ridiculous amount" to repair one as being relative to the cost of replacing one. For example... I don't know anything about watch repair, but it would be ridiculous to pay $50 to repair a $23 Timex with no sentimental value. You'd also find plenty of people who would even extend the curve in the opposite direction.... in other words they wouldn't want to even pay $15 to fix the watch. It's possible that such a watch would not offer the same level of dependability as a new one (for only $8 more).

The second half of your suggestion is a little odd too. The odds of making a million bucks repairing computers are pretty slim.

Sorry if I took your comments too seriously... but you didn't include a :2razz:
 
Leftist Protozoa said:
Odd logic there. :confused:

What difference does it make if you can repair a computer? I think most anyone would define a "ridiculous amount" to repair one as being relative to the cost of replacing one. For example... I don't know anything about watch repair, but it would be ridiculous to pay $50 to repair a $23 Timex with no sentimental value. You'd also find plenty of people who would even extend the curve in the opposite direction.... in other words they wouldn't want to even pay $15 to fix the watch. It's possible that such a watch would not offer the same level of dependability as a new one (for only $8 more).

The second half of your suggestion is a little odd too. The odds of making a million bucks repairing computers are pretty slim.

Sorry if I took your comments too seriously... but you didn't include a :2razz:
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The price of a new puter or a watch has nothing to do with the repair price. The BEST ever deals on a low cost puter are from Dell. We on the puter forums give that advice to people instead of telling them to build there own because no one can build a low end puter for what Dell charges.
Example: You buy a new pc from dell for $400.00
BUT to repair it may cost $100-$200.00 then its your choice to repair it or buy another for $400.00
The price to repair is the price to repair whether its a $400 or a $1000,00 PC.
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The moral of the story???:
If you can change a flat tire on your car you can build a really good puter and just 'upgrade' in stead of replacing the whole pc as time goes by. And if you build your own pc you will learn how to repair. Its that simple.

Here ya go,
:lol::lol::lol:
Yes I was kidding about making a million $$$$$.
 
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Sergeant Stinger1 said:
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The price of a new puter or a watch has nothing to do with the repair price. The BEST ever deals on a low cost puter are from Dell. We on the puter forums give that advice to people instead of telling them to build there own because no one can build a low end puter for what Dell charges.
Example: You buy a new pc from dell for $400.00
BUT to repair it may cost $100-$200.00 then its your choice to repair it or buy another for $400.00
The price to repair is the price to repair whether its a $400 or a $1000,00 PC.
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The moral of the story???:
If you can change a flat tire on your car you can build a really good puter and just 'upgrade' in stead of replacing the whole pc as time goes by. And if you build your own pc you will learn how to repair. Its that simple.

Here ya go,
:lol::lol::lol:
Yes I was kidding about making a million $$$$$.
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haha... My gf's parents called me freaking out about their monitor not working anymore.

So I go over there, test it out... bastard is fried and won't turn on anymore... Not bad.. 6 years out of a crappy dell 17" LCD.

Head to Best Buy and buy a new Samsung 19" Widescreen get it all hooked up.. and they were mystified by the way I could just fix their problem... which was just a messed up monitor.

Now, if I were a tech that did housecalls.. I could have billed the **** out of them... (which is what I do to people I don't really like, which the fact that I'm pretty good at fixing computers is a plus for them)... I could have billed them for a couple hours at $120 an hour.. plus the cost of the monitor.

No doubt that's what some other services would have done.

My point here, is most people don't even remotely know how computers work. They're mystified by the way they turn on and do things.. they wouldn't have even the remotest idea on how to fix these magical machines. Trust me, I've talked to enough users that I know that this is the majority of the thought process when it comes to them.

Well them and the people who think they know something.. that don't. :lol:


Either way... for most people it's not just as simple as building a new computer.
 
stevenb said:
haha... My gf's parents called me freaking out about their monitor not working anymore.

So I go over there, test it out... bastard is fried and won't turn on anymore... Not bad.. 6 years out of a crappy dell 17" LCD.

Head to Best Buy and buy a new Samsung 19" Widescreen get it all hooked up.. and they were mystified by the way I could just fix their problem... which was just a messed up monitor.

Now, if I were a tech that did housecalls.. I could have billed the **** out of them... (which is what I do to people I don't really like, which the fact that I'm pretty good at fixing computers is a plus for them)... I could have billed them for a couple hours at $120 an hour.. plus the cost of the monitor.

No doubt that's what some other services would have done.

My point here, is most people don't even remotely know how computers work. They're mystified by the way they turn on and do things.. they wouldn't have even the remotest idea on how to fix these magical machines. Trust me, I've talked to enough users that I know that this is the majority of the thought process when it comes to them.

Well them and the people who think they know something.. that don't. :lol:


Either way... for most people it's not just as simple as building a new computer.
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I haven't been on all the pc forums I belong to for a while but not too long ago most (or many) guys there were buying dell LCD's. I don't know much about LCD's but they were saying something about not too many dead ?pixels? in the del LCD's and them being pretty good even for gaming???
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I have been building and o'clocking since the 90's but monitors? I'm still using my 1998 19" monitor. But i'm not into many games anymore.:(
$HIT! Now I did it, it will probably break tommorow.:mrgreen:
 
Sergeant Stinger1 said:
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I haven't been on all the pc forums I belong to for a while but not too long ago most (or many) guys there were buying dell LCD's. I don't know much about LCD's but they were saying something about not too many dead ?pixels? in the del LCD's and them being pretty good even for gaming???
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I have been building and o'clocking since the 90's but monitors? I'm still using my 1998 19" monitor. But i'm not into many games anymore.:(
$HIT! Now I did it, it will probably break tommorow.:mrgreen:
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Meh, Samsung LCDs are pretty damn awesome.

I'm getting ready to be sporting to 21" widescreens on my box at home. :)
 
Sergeant Stinger1 said:
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The price of a new puter or a watch has nothing to do with the repair price.
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That's not what I said. I said "the price to repair one relative to the price of a new one."

In the example you provided, people with a $400 Dell would be on the fence about repairing it for $200. The guy with the broken $1,000 HP desktop might consider a $200 repair more favorably.

I have no doubt I could build a computer. That's not the same thing as wanting to build a computer. ;)
 
Leftist Protozoa said:
That's not what I said. I said "the price to repair one relative to the price of a new one."
:confused:***Isn't that what I said?***:confused:
In the example you provided, people with a $400 Dell would be on the fence about repairing it for $200. The guy with the broken $1,000 HP desktop might consider a $200 repair more favorably.

I have no doubt I could build a computer. That's not the same thing as wanting to build a computer. ;)
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Ah, once you build you'll soon be hook:mrgreen:ed!
 
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