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Question For the Brits

JMB1911A1 said:
More from the Daily Telegraph.

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Elon Musk has ripped the cloak of deceit off one of Britain’s most disgusting scandals

Once upon a time there was a good and fair country and people who lived in countries that were neither good nor fair travelled to that land and made it their home because they knew it to be kind. But some men who made that land their home brought the values of countries that were neither kind...
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Estimates are as high as 250,000 girls raped, tortured, trafficked, etc by these Paki gangs in the UK over the last 20+ years.
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250,000 is too high. Let's go for 2,500 and counting.
 
panic buyer said:
Government reports that gangs are minority asian. Whute men are the majority. by focussing on the minority you give the rapists a free pass. Is that what you want ?
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Your post is a disgusting lie. Shameful.l
 
panic buyer said:
Government reports that gangs are minority asian. Whute men are the majority. by focussing on the minority you give the rapists a free pass. Is that what you want ?
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Bump.
 
panic buyer said:
Nope its the truth.

www.theguardian.com

Most child sexual abuse gangs made up of white men, Home Office report says

Study of England, Scotland and Wales dispels myth of ‘Asian grooming gangs’ popularised by far right
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But if you get all your info from odd sources you might find tthat hard to believe.

Not shameful.
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What percentage of males in the UK are 15-24 year old Pakis?
What percentage of grooming gangs in the UK are 15-24 year old Pakis?

From your own link:

"The Home Office paper into the “characteristics” of such gangs, first promised by the former home secretary Sajid Javid in 2018, says while some studies show a possible overrepresentation of black and Asian offenders, it is not possible to conclude this is representative of all grooming gangs."
 
JMB1911A1 said:
What percentage of males in the UK are 15-24 year old Pakis?
What percentage of grooming gangs in the UK are 15-24 year old Pakis?

From your own link:

"The Home Office paper into the “characteristics” of such gangs, first promised by the former home secretary Sajid Javid in 2018, says while some studies show a possible overrepresentation of black and Asian offenders, it is not possible to conclude this is representative of all grooming gangs."
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Look at the rape gang trials in more than a dozen cities. ALL those convicted are Muslims. NEARLY ALL are Pakistani. NONE are 'white'.

At the last census around 8.5% self identified as Muslim. No numbers for how many of these are of Pakistani origin but it is generally assumed that the proportion is a lot more than half.
 
Sweden said:
Look at the rape gang trials in more than a dozen cities. ALL those convicted are Muslims. NEARLY ALL are Pakistani. NONE are 'white'.
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No. All the cases that get splashed across the front pages of the tabloids involve mostly Muslim and/or Asian gangs but that is not all of the actual cases, not of rape gangs specifically and certainly not of child sexual grooming and abuse more generally.

There still appears to be a disproportionate representation of Asian Muslims in rape gang cases, though probably not in child sexual exploitation more generally, and it's far from exclusive. If you really want to protect children, you can't make this all about race or religion. If.
 
HonestJoe said:
No. All the cases that get splashed across the front pages of the tabloids involve mostly Muslim and/or Asian gangs but that is not all of the actual cases, not of rape gangs specifically and certainly not of child sexual grooming and abuse more generally.

There still appears to be a disproportionate representation of Asian Muslims in rape gang cases, though probably not in child sexual exploitation more generally, and it's far from exclusive. If you really want to protect children, you can't make this all about race or religion. If.
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Thats the whole point isnt it.? By restricting your fovus on to people you dont like you rob all victims of justice.
Its a typical bonehead right wing approach to any problem.
They cant get beyond their racism.
 
Sweden said:
Look at the rape gang trials in more than a dozen cities. ALL those convicted are Muslims. NEARLY ALL are Pakistani. NONE are 'white'.

At the last census around 8.5% self identified as Muslim. No numbers for how many of these are of Pakistani origin but it is generally assumed that the proportion is a lot more than half.
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You dont actually give firm evidence to support your prejudice. Your dort never do.
 
JMB1911A1 said:
What percentage of males in the UK are 15-24 year old Pakis?
What percentage of grooming gangs in the UK are 15-24 year old Pakis?

From your own link:

"The Home Office paper into the “characteristics” of such gangs, first promised by the former home secretary Sajid Javid in 2018, says while some studies show a possible overrepresentation of black and Asian offenders, it is not possible to conclude this is representative of all grooming gangs."
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Well it would be odd for the most racist government in history to exonerate Pakistanis. Incredible in fact.
But no doubt you have a credible link to back up your racisst assertions.
When you use the term "paki" you lose any sympathy for your racist rants.
 
HonestJoe said:
At least I have my own view. How can you accuse me of having a canned view then just post a video of other people's opinions? I also don't see what that video has to do with the question of Musk leaping in to the fray swinging his political and personal self-interests with apparently zero understanding of the all of the details of the broad topics, other than of course, being a demonstration of you doing exactly the same.

When you bring yourself to have your own opinion of the facts, I'll be happy to discuss them with you.
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Your opinion is "canned" because you're just automatically condemning what anyone says because you disagree with them politically, like your dismissal of Musk. I'm the one who cited an interview in which one speaker condemned Tommy Robinson's illegal actions while admitting (as I guess you cannot) that he was right about SOME of the corruption he targeted.
 
panic buyer said:
Hilarious is that you quote a racist newsppaper that spent 14 years ignoring the victims but is now jumping on a bandwagon because it can A demonise muslims and B embarress the current govt.
Hilarious,
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Do the actions of the cover-up politicians deserve censure, or not?
 
panic buyer said:
I dont understand.Robinson is not a problem. He is in jail where he belongs,
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His critique of the rape gangs is relevant because he was right about what these pedo gangs were doing. Robinson's in jail, as was pointed out in the first YouTube essay I cited, because he defied the court about defaming a particular individual.
 
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HonestJoe said:
No. All the cases that get splashed across the front pages of the tabloids involve mostly Muslim and/or Asian gangs but that is not all of the actual cases, not of rape gangs specifically and certainly not of child sexual grooming and abuse more generally.

There still appears to be a disproportionate representation of Asian Muslims in rape gang cases, though probably not in child sexual exploitation more generally, and it's far from exclusive. If you really want to protect children, you can't make this all about race or religion. If.
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It seems that your idea of a "tabloid" includes the Times - or any news news medium which does not slavishly byow down to multiculturalism and the white bad/brown good mantra.
 
panic buyer said:
Well it would be odd for the most racist government in history to exonerate Pakistanis. Incredible in fact.
But no doubt you have a credible link to back up your racisst assertions.
When you use the term "paki" you lose any sympathy for your racist rants.
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Are you claiming that Great Britain has "the most racist government in history," and if so, on what evidence?
 
panic buyer said:
Well it would be odd for the most racist government in history to exonerate Pakistanis. Incredible in fact.
But no doubt you have a credible link to back up your racisst assertions.
When you use the term "paki" you lose any sympathy for your racist rants.
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“Most racist government in history”? What a ****ing joke. The British government (especially Labour) is bending over backward in dhimmitude to accommodate these criminals.

The Quran allows (and requires) them to subjugate non-believers. Anyone who he spent time in the Middle East is familiar with this.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Every part of the forrin media is naturally anti-Trump. As I'm sure you believe.
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If the Guardian covered up earlier, why would they hesitate to cover up now? I have not read the Home Office paper, which is quite long. But Piers Morgan claimed that he read it, and that it mentioned Rotherham-- once.
 
Ouroboros said:
His critique of the rape gangs is relevant because he was right about what these pedo gangs were doing. Robinson's in jail, as was pointed out in the first YouTube essay I cited, because he defied the court about defaming a particular individual.
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He is in jail because he broke the law. And admitted itt. Your attempt to portray him as some sort of truth teller is laughable.
His only contribution is to attrmpt to collapse the trial of rapists.
Who does that help ?
 
Sweden said:
It seems that your idea of a "tabloid" includes the Times - or any news news medium which does not slavishly byow down to multiculturalism and the white bad/brown good mantra.
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It does often include the Times, and pretty much all UK "news"papers. The sad fact is that their choice and prioritisation of stories has always been primarily determined by what sells (or gets clicks) rather than what is a balanced reflection of reality. It's the same reason that one murder with five victims tends to get more coverage than hundreds of murders with one victim each or that a crime involving an attractive celebrity will get more coverage than the same crime involving a "normal" person.

Regardless of the rights or wrongs of the media, that point is that the range of cases you've been made aware of is not necessarily entirely representative of all the cases that actually exist. In this context, I can tell you definitively that it isn't. Again, that isn't to say that Asians/Muslims aren't over represented in some types of crimes but that doesn't mean they're responsible for all (or even most) of those crimes and so that shouldn't be the aspect to focus on exclusively.
 
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