Assume your poll has an "I am an independent who thinks Libertarians as a party are a bunch of southern Civil War buffs who don't want to be called racists, kooks, and young conservatives who do not want to have to pay back their student loans" and I checked that box.
On a different thread someone suggested Libertarians should not be lumped together with conservatives. I agree Libertarians are not exactly Republicans but I do tend to think of Libertarians as the half-brothers of Republicans. Congressman Ron Paul and twice Presidential candidate is a Libertarian and according the Wikipedia is a "Lifetime Member" but joined "the next best thing" due to electability issues not being affiliated with a major party. The Libertarian candidate for POTUS, Congressman Bob Barr was a lifelong Republican but ran for President as a Libertarian I assume because they represented his conservative ideology even more than the GOP.
Am I'm mistaken or is the Libertarian Party in the same conservative family as the Republican Party?
Sorry for inadvertently omitting Independents from the poll.
Republicans | Libertarians | |
War | Yes Please! | Only for defense. |
SSM | God hates fags | All citizens are equal |
Drug war | I like freedom as long as it aligns with my jesus values. | It's not the government's place to control your body. |
Civil rights | Can be revoked for safety | Should never be revoked for any reason |
Foreign Policy | America is superior and special. Do what we say or we attack. | We should treat others as we wish to be treated. |
Immigration | Close the borders. | Freedom of movement is one of the most basic human rights. |
Am I'm mistaken or is the Libertarian Party in the same conservative family as the Republican Party?.
Officially libertarians are fiscally conservative and socially liberal.
Republicans Libertarians War Yes Please! Only for defense. SSM God hates fags All citizens are equal Drug war I like freedom as long as it aligns with my jesus values. It's not the government's place to control your body. Civil rights Can be revoked for safety Should never be revoked for any reason Foreign Policy America is superior and special. Do what we say or we attack. We should treat others as we wish to be treated. Immigration Close the borders. Freedom of movement is one of the most basic human rights.
The list could go on for a while. These two parties are not even remotely similar. The issue has been that too many republicans disgusted with their party decide to change the political lean dropdown box to "libertarian", without changing their beliefs.
Like most independents in America, if not most Americans. Which sounds schizophrenic, but that's because the proper label - "liberal" - was stolen from us by social democrats somewhere around the 1930s. In the continental Europe, "liberal" still means what it means logically: "free minds and free markets".
LOL.
I am surprised by the libertarian position on immigration though. They think anybody who wants should be allowed to move to America with no regulation?
Yes, that is positively a problem. You have people like Ron Paul who aren't even remotely Republican, but have to run as such because we have a two party system that refuses to even acknowledge other viewpoints.Much of the confusion for me is seeing Libertarians vote for and run as Republicans and vice-versa be we hardly ever see such intra-party movement between Libertarians and Democrats.
The Republican Party is slightly more libertarian than the Democratic Party, but neither one is nearly as libertarian as the Libertarian Party.
Nah, I think most people who call themselves "Libertarian" seem to think it's just a cooler sounding synonym for "Republican."
You can tell when they come out on social issues. Libertarians tend to be socially liberal.
It's actually about fifty-fifty. The republicans are like the libertarians on economic issues, the democrats are like libertarians on social issues, for the most part. There are anomalies, such as gun rights, which is technically a social issue. But generally the rule holds.
Officially libertarians are fiscally conservative and socially liberal.
You can tell when they come out on social issues. Libertarians tend to be socially liberal.
Those are not social issue, they are economic issues. Think about it. All those things are funded by taxes, coerced by government. Essentially they are wealth redistribution, a form of economic coercion. Social liberty, where democrats and libertarians agree, involve no economic coercion.Libertarians are most certainly not "socially liberal" and share much in common with the Republican party on social issues. Libertarians may agree with Democrats on certain civil rights issues, but much of the Democrat social agenda is rooted in collectivism, which is flatly rejected by Libertarians and to a lesser extent, Republicans. On the most significant social issues - Education, Welfare/Social Insurance, Health Care - Libertarians have more in common with Republicans than they do with Democrats.
Assume your poll has an "I am an independent who thinks Libertarians as a party are a bunch of southern Civil War buffs who don't want to be called racists, kooks, and young conservatives who do not want to have to pay back their student loans" and I checked that box.
Republicans Libertarians War Yes Please! Only for defense. SSM God hates fags All citizens are equal Drug war I like freedom as long as it aligns with my jesus values. It's not the government's place to control your body. Civil rights Can be revoked for safety Should never be revoked for any reason Foreign Policy America is superior and special. Do what we say or we attack. We should treat others as we wish to be treated. Immigration Close the borders. Freedom of movement is one of the most basic human rights.
The list could go on for a while. These two parties are not even remotely similar. The issue has been that too many republicans disgusted with their party decide to change the political lean dropdown box to "libertarian", without changing their beliefs.
Libertarians have more in common with Republicans than they do with Democrats.
while i agree with you here on most, i disagree on one.
that is why every libertarian, is not same......my issue is with your last one.
Almost all government is "funded by taxes, coerced by government" - the fact that you pay for something in that manner doesn't make it an "economic issue." They are social issues. A true libertarian has no use for qualifiers on liberty. "Social liberty" is the idea that securing individual rights does not guarantee liberty - that extra steps are required to be sure that "everyone has a fair shake" or whatever it is that Obama is always saying. "Social liberalism" is what brings us concepts like "the right to housing" and "the right to healthcare"Those are not social issue, they are economic issues. Think about it. All those things are funded by taxes, coerced by government. Essentially they are wealth redistribution, a form of economic coercion. Social liberty, where democrats and libertarians agree, involve no economic coercion.
while i agree with you here on most, i disagree on one.
that is why every libertarian, is not same......my issue is with the last one.
Libertarians are most certainly not "socially liberal" and share much in common with the Republican party on social issues. Libertarians may agree with Democrats on certain civil rights issues, but much of the Democrat social agenda is rooted in collectivism, which is flatly rejected by Libertarians and to a lesser extent, Republicans. On the most significant social issues - Education, Welfare/Social Insurance, Health Care - Libertarians have more in common with Republicans than they do with Democrats.
Almost all government is "funded by taxes, coerced by government" - the fact that you pay for something in that manner doesn't make it an "economic issue." They are social issues. A true libertarian has no use for qualifiers on liberty. "Social liberty" is the idea that securing individual rights does not guarantee liberty - that extra steps are required to be sure that "everyone has a fair shake" or whatever it is that Obama is always saying. "Social liberalism" is what brings us concepts like "the right to housing" and "the right to healthcare"
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