I don't get it, how can America feel threatened by an expansionistic country with a large military, a historic grudge against NATO & 1/8th of the world's surface under their rule? They aren't even atheist or communist!
The US government does, sanman. That's all I'm saying.Who the **** cares about NATO?
Call NATO antagonistic towards Russia, but we've gone longer in human history without a major war in Europe than ever before, and it's let the global economy build up for the majority of a century uninterrupted. Perhaps it's less about Europeans living free, and more about valuable and developed trade partners living with functioning factories and markets?It's some organization, not a country. NATO was created to treat Russia as an enemy, and as long as NATO is given primacy then this will create antagonism with Russia.
Americans have their own lives to live, and don't want to revolve around NATO and its need for endless war. Those people are rich enough to defend themselves.
Biden-lovers say of the Afghans, "if they wanted to live free, then they should have fought harder to keep themselves free"
Well, the same thing could be said of Europeans. America shouldn't be fighting their battles for them.
This has become one big corrupt game.
Listen to Putin's speech, and particularly his comments @ 3:30
It's very clear that he blames Lenin and his Bolsheviks for the separation of Ukraine from Russia. Obviously that shows how he repudiates Bolsheviks/Lenin/Communism for undermining Russia.
That easily again shows that Putin is not a communist. So where's the reason for the US to be obsessed with Russia? It's a non-communist Christian country. What makes Ukraine any more important than any other of the many territorial disputes around the world?
I mean, if nothing else they are an extremely adversarial country to us that also has nukes. I dont know if you’ve noticed, but when US politicians talks about Russia they don’t talk about communism.So where's the reason for the US to be obsessed with Russia?
Bro, we literally aren’t fighting their battles for them. We are providing some aid and assisting in the effort to create effective sanctions. 100% of the aggression here is Russia. Yeah, NATO sucks and has done bad stuff in the past. But Russia is the one constantly justifying the existence of NATO with their own actions.Who the **** cares about NATO? It's some organization, not a country. NATO was created to treat Russia as an enemy, and as long as NATO is given primacy then this will create antagonism with Russia.
Americans have their own lives to live, and don't want to revolve around NATO and its need for endless war. Those people are rich enough to defend themselves.
Biden-lovers say of the Afghans, "if they wanted to live free, then they should have fought harder to keep themselves free"
Well, the same thing could be said of Europeans. America shouldn't be fighting their battles for them.
This has become one big corrupt game.
The US government does, sanman. That's all I'm saying.
Call NATO antagonistic towards Russia, but we've gone longer in human history without a major war in Europe than ever before, and it's let the global economy build up for the majority of a century uninterrupted. Perhaps it's less about Europeans living free, and more about valuable and developed trade partners living with functioning factories and markets?
You conservatives are so f***ing predictable with your defense of Daddy Putin. Always need an autocrat to look up to and glorify.
People like Putin don't hold ideologies. They are all about power and they will exploit ideologies if it is in their best interest. This has nothing to do with communism and everything to do with an autocrat bullying a sovereign nation. Kindly f*** off with the excuses for your Daddy.
I mean, if nothing else they are an extremely adversarial country to us that also has nukes. I dont know if you’ve noticed, but when US politicians talks about Russia they don’t talk about communism.
Additionally, this issue is more related to NATO and European security. Hence why the US is only committing to sanctions and not any kind of hot war. I fail to see how the US has responded in an obsessive way towards Russia.
Bro, we literally aren’t fighting their battles for them. We are providing some aid and assisting in the effort to create effective sanctions. 100% of the aggression here is Russia. Yeah, NATO sucks and has done bad stuff in the past. But Russia is the one constantly justifying the existence of NATO with their own actions.
It feels like you just want something to get mad at. None of these arguments have any substance in reality.
You're totally ignorant. You're obviously some extraterritorialist with foreign loyalties who wants America to be his sucker to fight his wars.
Go fight your own wars. Go pick up a rifle and swim over there to fight if you want to. Stop trying to suck Americans into fighting your battles for you.
Do you really think if we give Putin what he wants here, that will be the end, really? Putin is a warrior, ex kGB, of the cold war which he thinks the USSR lost and he want it back again to regain Russia's place and pride in the world. He has nuclear weapons and seems willing to use them as his saber rattling shows. Once he wins this and especially if we do nothing, he will just move on to his next target. And those targets will see we do nothing and will go unwilling back under the dictatorship of Russia. I guess I feel we need to say no at some point before autocratic government comes to this country and there are plenty of Trump lovers and GOP members that want just that with them being the rulers.Who the **** cares about NATO? It's some organization, not a country. NATO was created to treat Russia as an enemy, and as long as NATO is given primacy then this will create antagonism with Russia.
Americans have their own lives to live, and don't want to revolve around NATO and its need for endless war. Those people are rich enough to defend themselves.
Biden-lovers say of the Afghans, "if they wanted to live free, then they should have fought harder to keep themselves free"
Well, the same thing could be said of Europeans. America shouldn't be fighting their battles for them.
This has become one big corrupt game.
Do you really think if we give Putin what he wants here, that will be the end, really? Putin is a warrior, ex kGB, of the cold war which he thinks the USSR lost and he want it back again to regain Russia's place and pride in the world. He has nuclear weapons and seems willing to use them as his saber rattling shows. Once he wins this and especially if we do nothing, he will just move on to his next target. And those targets will see we do nothing and will go unwilling back under the dictatorship of Russia. I guess I feel we need to say no at some point before autocratic government comes to this country and there are plenty of Trump lovers and GOP members that want just that with them being the rulers.
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