The point is that Russia does not have any hope of taking Donbass either and Ukraine has built its main defense lines for all of Ukraine there. Giving up Donbas is surrendering all of Ukraine to Putin. It is Putin that is bashing his soldiers heads against the wall and losing 1000+ of them daily. Ukraine will never willingly give up an inch of Ukraine any more than Putin will.
Russia already has taken much of Donbas.
LOL At the rate Russia is advancing they can't take Donbass before 2030. Ukraine will never willingly give up an inch of Ukraine. They will bomb Russia into a wasteland before that happens.
Which can’t contradict the fact that they still hold much of it, as I pointed out.
I’m pointing out the fact continuing a war for the sake of continuing a war is pointless, especially given the fact that the war is a clear stalemate at this point.
Eisenhower did not give up land to the N. Koreans. Zelensky has agreed to a unconditional ceasefire and Putin has not. You keep forgetting that. There is no stalemate in this war of attrition either. Ukraine is clearly winning.
Yes, he did. Kaesong was ceded to North Korea, as well as the vast majority of the land the UN had managed to conquer in late 1950.
Are you saying that damning millions of Koreans to starvation and a brutal dictatorship for generations was the right thing to do? That N. Korea is not a pariah state that is a thorn in the side of the world and that Ukraine should do the same to their own people?
Yes, I did, by pointing out how nonsensical trying to equate support for a ceasefire to “siding with Trump” is.
If Ukraine is “already winning” then why do they need an endless supply of more and more advanced weaponry? I still remember how the F-16s were supposed to be the “game changers”. And the Abrams. And the rocket launchers
I answered your question and you ignore it. They are winning but they want to end this war not prolong it like Putin. There are no "game changers" when your enemy will endure any amount of losses to prolong the conflict. The F-16's are shooting down 100's of drones and saving 1000's of Ukrainian lives though.If Ukraine is “already winning” then why do they need an endless supply of more and more advanced weaponry? I still remember how the F-16s were supposed to be the “game changers”. And the Abrams. And the rocket launchers
If they are winning they clearly don’t need Tomahawks, as what they have would have been doing the job just fine.
They need whatever they can get to make Putin quit his invasion tomorrow. The killing has to stop.
Trump believes every word out of Putin's lying mouth and will never give up giving him second chances. He will likely try to get Ukraine to give up Donbass again since Putin now realizes that his military will never take it by force before Russia goes bankrupt.
Hmm. That’s odd, you were just complaining about conditions for a ceasefire a minute ago. Do you want the killing to stop or don’t you?
No nation gives up territory before negotiations even start. It is a ludicrous and insulting demand and Putin knows it. He knows that Ukraine will never agree and that is what he wants. An excuse to keep fighting in Ukraine.
Clearly false. East Germany, for example, gave up its land over the Oder even before the Treaty of Zgorzelec was officially signed.