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"Proving them wrong": After raising minimum wage, California has more fast-food jobs than ever

Isn't California leading the way in criminalizing homelessness?
Yeah, it is due to the two-party system that normally leads itself to having corrupt kleptocrats and their cronies in office as long as they have the respective two-party blessing to be in power. As off as that may sound. The US needs to move beyond the two-party system.
 
As usual, the Democrats are lying.

By cherry-picking which numbers and which months to use when revealing employment trends, Governor Newsom is misconstruing the true harmful consequences of his $20 minimum wage, and ignoring the layoffs, price hikes, and restaurant closures that many in California are currently experiencing.

Regardless of the data used to understand what’s rapidly unfolding in California, Newsom’s premature victory lap ignores how his misguided $20 fast food minimum wage is hurting residents, employees, and local restaurants.

BLS revises these numbers and releases “seasonally adjusted” monthly numbers, which remove normal seasonal variation, like summer or holiday hiring movements, to show employment levels that may have more to do with policy changes and business cycle changes.

  • In a review of this second set of BLS data, EPI found that the monthly employment changes show California has actually lost over 2,500 fast food jobs since January 1, 2024.
  • Similar to the non-seasonally adjusted dataset, reviewing the larger annual trends shows as of May 2024, annual limited-service restaurant employment growth is stagnating (just 0.4% this year compared to 2.7% last year).
  • Considering this dataset is specifically adjusted to eliminate any normal fluctuations that aren’t related to the economy or politics, this evidence seriously undermines Newsom’s claim.


Gov. Newsom’s Office Continues to Fib About Fast Food Job Losses – Claims Job Gains​

‘Newsom is stretching the truth to obscure that his fast food minimum wage hike has been a disaster’ https://californiaglobe.com/article...-about-fast-food-job-losses-claims-job-gains/

“He is using the non-adjusted data set,” Paxton said in an interview with the Globe Tuesday. “He went after other groups for using these last time around. But as of July, California is still down 3,000 fast food jobs since January 2024.”

There have been historical fast food job losses because of the increase to the $20 per hour minimum wage. And the governor and his PR staff don’t appear to care that people are losing their jobs – they’d rather gaslight minimum wage workers and claim fast food jobs are up.

“They are cherry picking different time periods here,” Paxton said, “and the administration’s statistics don’t hold up.”

Paxton said the September 2023 to July 2024 time period is a very big time period and arbitrary since September is when the bill was signed, but it wasn’t until January 2024 that we started seeing headlines about fast food companies starting layoffs and job cuts in preparation for the April 2024 effective date of the new minimum wage increase to $20 per hour.

Indeed – the Globe reported December 26, 2023, “Pizza Hut Fires Over 1,200 Drivers In California Before New $20 Minimum Wage Comes Into Effect.”

Even the March 2024 to July 2024 time period, Paxton said is missing about half of the job loss data, since the job cuts started in January 2024, ahead of the April 2024 implementation.

“The BLS statistics show that there have been fast food job losses in 6 of 7 months,” Paxton said. “The net numbers show January through today, 3,000 fast food jobs lost in California.”
 
They raised it to make it a livable wage. Surely you understand why that's important, right? Do you know what a livable wage is?
That term is meaningless. Not all jobs are meant to support families. I'm not going to pay the neighbor kid $25 an hour to mow my hard, or babysit the kids when we go out to dinner. Flipping burgers at the McDonalds is for highschool and college kids, not adults raising their own children.
 
Ill take that to be a no. And I agree.
I'm glad you agree with the principle that wages left to free market forces can dip to a level that is not healthy for the economy or society as a whole.
 
That term is meaningless.
Indeed, that term, and many others ("the rich") are rarely defined by the leftists. We all know why.
Not all jobs are meant to support families. I'm not going to pay the neighbor kid $25 an hour to mow my hard, or babysit the kids when we go out to dinner. Flipping burgers at the McDonalds is for highschool and college kids, not adults raising their own children.
Exactly.
 
It’s not just customers at the drive-thru being affected. The same people seeing an increase in wages may also experience a decrease in hours.

An increase in wages, and a decrease in hours.

That would be AWESOME!!!! Sign me up!!
 
I'm glad you agree with the principle that wages left to free market forces can dip to a level that is not healthy for the economy or society as a whole.
I only agreed with what you wrote in your post I responded to.
 
I only agreed with what you wrote in your post I responded to.
Which was,

"Different economic environments should be treated differently.
"The principle remains, but the details should be tailored appropriately."

Emphasis added.
 
That term is meaningless. Not all jobs are meant to support families. I'm not going to pay the neighbor kid $25 an hour to mow my hard, or babysit the kids when we go out to dinner. Flipping burgers at the McDonalds is for highschool and college kids, not adults raising their own children.
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LOL, sure, when you raise the minimum wage to $40,000 a year, then you're bumping up into what adults make, pretty clearly. Of course. So you put all the kids out of work, and then they can't get jobs until they're adults, which is horrible public policy. The menial jobs should be done by teenagers - it shouldn't be a 36 year old father of 4 lugging the garbage out and breaking boxes out back of the corner store, and cleaning out the coolers, etc. It should be the local kid learning to work and show up on time and how a paycheck works.
 
An increase in wages, and a decrease in hours.

That would be AWESOME!!!! Sign me up!!
Sounds lazy, and also counterproductive. The reason to work a minimum wage job is to gain experience to move to a higher wage job.

Would you tell a potential employer during an interview that your goal is to work fewer hours? Of course not. Because it's not a plus.
 
Oh? A happy meal is the same price everywhere?
The McDonalds 5 miles from my house has different prices on various menu items than the McDonald's 9 miles from my house. I know this, because I have used the app to purchase items, and if I put items in the cart and then change the location from one McDonalds to another, it changes the price and says, literally, that since I changed the location the pices in the cart have changed.

If there is one thing that Progressives will always do is prove that they have absolutely no idea how to think straight and they have no idea how the economy or any industry works. If they understood even some of it, they wouldn't be Progressives.
 
Which was,

"Different economic environments should be treated differently.
"The principle remains, but the details should be tailored appropriately."

Emphasis added.
Yes.

Not,

"I'm glad you agree with the principle that wages left to free market forces can dip to a level that is not healthy for the economy or society as a whole."
 
I do, and $20 in California aint it.
When I was 17, I would already have been embarrassed to work for minimum wage. LOL. There are so many jobs out there for a 17 year old boy to make much more than minimum wage. The reason someone would start at the supermarket or the McDonalds at minimum wage is that they know that fairly soon, if they do well, they get a bump up over mininum, and get a promotion or two. Any boy over, say, the age of 18 that does not make well over minimum wage either (a) should have a goal within the organization he joined to enter at that low wage on the prospect of moving up, or (b) is not trying.
 
The reason to work a minimum wage job is to gain experience to move to a higher wage job.

A person works in order to make the money they need.

One job is not meant as a "starter job" that you can work until you've "worked your way up" to a sustainable wage.

We simply MUST stop being the dumbest citizens on earth Nice Guy, if you are confused just FOLLOW ME I'll lead the way!!
 
When I was 17, I would already have been embarrassed to work for minimum wage. LOL. There are so many jobs out there for a 17 year old boy to make much more than minimum wage. The reason someone would start at the supermarket or the McDonalds at minimum wage is that they know that fairly soon, if they do well, they get a bump up over mininum, and get a promotion or two. Any boy over, say, the age of 18 that does not make well over minimum wage either (a) should have a goal within the organization he joined to enter at that low wage on the prospect of moving up, or (b) is not trying.

Yeahhh......sounds like some bologna imo. I'm not on board with that.
 
A person works in order to make the money they need.
Sure, but any man age 18 or older can find plenty of jobs to do that make over minimum wage. I know illegal aliens who pull $100k cleaning houses. They didn't start out that much, but they became housecleaners, and in short order were making well over minimum wage. I know painters in their 20s making $30 an hour easy. Sure, nobody is going to pay your $30 an hour to ask people at the drive through if you're using the mobile app today and whether you need a receipt. But, if you want to work, you can make much more money than minimum in a lot of ways.
One job is not meant as a "starter job" that you can work until you've "worked your way up" to a sustainable wage.
Oh sure they are. Jobs are not "meant" to be one thing or the other. A task or a job is worth what someone is willing to pay. When I look for someone to mow my yard or babysit, I am an employer, and I hire somebody not for whatever purpose they may have for the money. I pay what the job is worth to me. I'm not paying a babysitter $20 an hour to sit and watch TV while I take my wife out to dinner. That's ridiculous. If I want to give an opportunity for a teenager to help out in the office sorting papers or cleaning up, I don't have to pay him enough to support a family of 4.
We simply MUST stop being the dumbest citizens on earth Nice Guy, if you are confused just FOLLOW ME I'll lead the way!!
Progressives are dragging us down. They have a mental block or something and they lack common sense, as well as any understanding of basic economics.
 
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