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Oh FFS, we all get angry and frustrated. I'm frustrated right now with one of my customers. And very angry about something they did. Should I go to their headquarters and start throwing things and wrecking the place?
Normal, decent people control their anger and don't lash out. And the people in Ferguson aren't controlling their anger and frustration. That speaks volumes about them. There is NO excuse for this behavior - period.
Far too many cops are nothing more than thugs with badges. They overreact and often resort to far more force than is necessary to control a situation. You only have to read a newspaper - any paper anywhere in the country - to understand that. It attracts a certain kind of person, and often these are bullies who enjoy exercising power on the powerless.
There is a point where said customer can continue to do major things to screw you over, cause you great aggravation, cost you money and possibly cause you a lot of personal grief to the point where you lose it. Some of how you deal with your customer is based on how your management will support you. If they completely sided with the account, if your people don't you to STFU and apologize, kiss ass, welcome such behavior in the future as long as you save the account you are a some point going to lose it. You probably have a lot of safety valves and losing it may take a long time. But you DO have a limit. We have all seen normal decent people lose it.
Here's one of the problems of making black and white (pun intended) decisions. Issues are rarely black or white. You said the people involved in the protests in Ferguson are not normal, decent people. What we don't know is how they might have acted had a military force not responded under the guise of "police" and heavy handed and bullied the situation from day one.
I'm not sure why the governor didn't step in until today. Protocol says it should go from city to county to state and then federal. It normally must follow that path, and it can proceed quickly if need be. The local police were obviously out of their league from the start. What do police these days do when they want to control they often use sudden brute force, more than necessary. That is what happened on the police side of the issue in Ferguson. It exacerbated the situation. It threw fuel on the fire. It made it all much worse and quickly. And then the police made it worse again. Local community leaders, calmer minds of respect community voices didn't have time to respond.
There have been "un-normal" and "un-decent" acts on both sides of the situation. We will no doubt find that loads of mistakes were made on both sides. The police should be trained not to make the monumental that were made.
And what you don't get is any concept of why the riot occurred. To you it's just another bunch of out of control black people that need to be kept in their place.
I've wondered how people justify looting, in their own minds, under any conditions! It's theft, plain and simple! All of us have been frustrated at some point in our lives, but frustration isn't relieved by doing this, but it is an opportunity to steal to get something for nothing. Those business owners had nothing to do with the shooting, yet their stores were ransacked and burned. Same when the levees failed during Katrina. Very sad to see....
Greetings, CJ. :2wave:
Oh FFS, we all get angry and frustrated. I'm frustrated right now with one of my customers. And very angry about something they did. Should I go to their headquarters and start throwing things and wrecking the place?
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Again, your statement says far more about you than it does the police.
People who excuse that behavior are probably the same ones who let their two year-olds act like little assholes, and never teach them to control their two-year-old instincts.
People who excuse that behavior are probably the same ones who let their two year-olds act like little assholes, and never teach them to control their two-year-old instincts.
It's because in our society, we have been made to feel guilty if someone is lacking in anything, no matter the reason for that being the case, and there has been a push for the past few decades to "equalize" the socioeconomic status of the masses, and make people who succeed feel guilty for doing so. That is how they justify it. It isn't "fair" that some people have more than others, so in their minds, looting is just people who have been unfairly treated, getting what is rightfully theirs. It's disgusting.
Hey, you're the one that suggested it. Meanwhile, do you give a damn that an unarmed kid was gunned down in the street by a trigger happy cop? Or was he guilty of the crime of being a black teenager and therefore he got what he deserved.
or who were allowed to act that way as two year olds. Throwing tantrums at two is normal. If the child gets what he wants by throwing tantrums, then that two year old behavior is likely to continue into adulthood.
There is no excuse for their behavior, period. None. The only ones who have a reason and a right to be angry, frustrated or anything right now is the family of the man who was shot.
I have never seen normal decent people act like this. Yes, I have a limit. I also don't loot and riot.
Yes, I don't recall many educated, white, professional, women to the manor born rioting in America or anywhere else for that matter.
I've wondered how people justify looting, in their own minds, under any conditions! It's theft, plain and simple! All of us have been frustrated at some point in our lives, but frustration isn't relieved by doing this, but it is an opportunity to steal to get something for nothing. Those business owners had nothing to do with the shooting, yet their stores were ransacked and burned. Same when the levees failed during Katrina. Very sad to see....
Greetings, CJ. :2wave:
Yes, I don't recall many educated, white, professional, women to the manor born rioting in America or anywhere else for that matter.
I'm confused. I hadn't heard that the young man killed in Ferguson was the victim of improperly used surplus military equipment.
This sounds to me like another knee jerk reaction by a politician who feels every action requires an ignorant reaction from a politician.
After reading all of these posts denigrating policemen, I truly hope none of these people who detest them so much ever plan to use the services of these evil, rotten bullies in a time of need for themselves or their families.
I specifically said NOT a quota system but a deliberate attempt to attract qualified candidates.The force would have to be 67% black officers to represent the community mix. Currently only 3 of the 53 officers are black.
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Its not that all cops are bad, but that the systems in place cover for them.
I've heard it explained that admitting police wrongdoing creates mistrust and second guessing. But sweeping every misdeed under the rug makes those who witness such occurrences CERTAIN that the department in question is corrupt.
So in order to save face with the population overall, they cause a few to turn against them for good every time they "let it slide".
Police/public relationships would improve dramatically if cops who **** up were held strictly accountable.
Hell, statistics involving complaints of abuse dropping dramatically when cops are required to wear cameras, as well as the aggressive ways they deal with those filming them in action speaks volumes as to how cops were behaving when no one was around to see.
I specifically said NOT a quota system but a deliberate attempt to attract qualified candidates.
Unarmed protestors exercising their first amendment rights don't throw firebombs and loot businesses. I find that disturbing.
YOu can believe me when I say I have no love for cops, but having a bad cop here and there does NOT justify animalistic behavior. Supposedly, western civilization has moved beyond the point of monkey behaviors, and has the capability of resolving problems with intellect and reason. Sometimes bad **** happens, but that is no reason to turn into animals.
I agree to a point. But when you know for a fact that no matter how badly individual cops behave they will NEVER be held accountable, civilized responses are worthless.
And with the advent of less than lethal weapons, even simply gathering in the streets demanding something be done is met with casual overwhelming force. Which only escalates the situation.
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