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Prosecutors and FBI clashed over search of Trump residence, report says

I've said it before. The "deep state" seems to bend hard in favor of the right.
That doesn't make sense. The FBI raised concerns about having to explain their actions to oversight and government watchdogs, and DOJ says 'do it anyway'. That would be a 'hard bend' in favor of the left, and underscores the complaints about the heavy handed approach being unnecessary.
 
How many were afraid of Trump and the blowback from the right, though?
The concern was 'blowback' from congressional oversight and government watchdogs - and that was a legitimate concern. The approach was unnecessary, and in stark contrast to the approach taken with Biden.

And it was the appropriate response after failure to return all documents the first & second time, while saying they had all been returned.
lol. This has been debunked.
 
Because this thread is about the FBI and I'm not going to help you derail it. If you want to start another thread, be my guest.
Ok, was it derailment when you quoted me?

Heaven forbid we don't derail a circle jerk about the FBI being too scared to do their jobs. How hard is that for everyone to agree on?
 
The concern was 'blowback' from congressional oversight and government watchdogs - and that was a legitimate concern. The approach was unnecessary, and in stark contrast to the approach taken with Biden.


lol. This has been debunked.

Has it? I haven't seen anything debunking that.
 
Ok, was it derailment when you quoted me?

Heaven forbid we don't derail a circle jerk about the FBI being too scared to do their jobs. How hard is that for everyone to agree on?

It's different circumstances and don't you think the teachers deserve their own thread?
 
In this case, the FBI was raising the red flag that it was inappropriate to take such an aggressive approach, and the DOJ said do it anyway.
Is the taking and keeping of classified documents a potential national security threat?

senior agents suggested the Justice Department should accept false claims by Trump’s lawyers that he had returned all the top secret materials


We are not the presidential records police,” Steven D’Antuono, the chief of the FBI’s Washington D.C. field office, reportedly told prosecutors.





So, my question to Mr D'Antuono is - if the taking of a large amount of classified records from the White House is a potential national security threat, then why isn't it a concern of the FBI of which the DOJ saw it as being a very serious problem?
 
When referring to the maxim of 'just do your job' , why on earth would you disagree?

Because in the case of the FBI, the nation's top law enforcement corruption and/or fear of retribution, and treating an ex president as if he is above the law is the problem here. It's much more than someone not doing their job for religious reasons or whatever.
 
The FBI shouldn't be political. And they shouldn't be afraid of doing their job.
The FBI is inherently political
 
Do you agree that it shouldn't be?
No, that would be dumb. The state security apparatus is inherently political
 
So you wouldn't have a problem with the FBI being made up of libs?
It largely is now.

It would be better if the FBI was openly partisan so it could be openly dismissed as a partisan organ.
 
It largely is now.

It would be better if the FBI was openly partisan so it could be openly dismissed as a partisan organ.

You think it was a liberal FBI that was afraid to go after Trump? I thought they were against him.
 
You think it was a liberal FBI that was afraid to go after Trump? I thought they were against him.
They were afraid of reprucussions.

The proper answer is for the FBI to refuse to carry out the warrant on the basis it violates the civil rights of American voters
 
They were afraid of reprucussions.

The proper answer is for the FBI to refuse to carry out the warrant on the basis it violates the civil rights of American voters

How does it violate the civil rights of American voters?
 
The proper answer is for the FBI to refuse to carry out the warrant on the basis it violates the civil rights of American voters
A search warrant was signed off on by a Fed Judge. The FBI's role at Mar-a-Lago was to retrieve classified documents under that warrant. It became the role of the DOJ to investigate and prosecute, if warranted, based on evidence collected. That's the same as being an US soldier given an order to do something. That soldier must carry out that order or suffer the consequences. That even means a possible court-martial and discharge from the US military.
 
Neither should teachers, or cops, or any public service job, but they are.
FYI, discussion about teachers wasn't brought into the hearing when questioning AG Garland about MAL documents yesterday. I'd say that AG Garland wasn't afraid to answer questions while also clarifying that he was basically being fair to both President's Biden and Trump by appointing special counsels because of the upcoming 2024 election.


Garland was asked at the very end of the hearing about his decisions to appoint special counsels in cases involving classified documents found at the homes and offices of Biden and Trump. The attorney general reiterated his explanation, saying he believed when Trump formally announced his 2024 bid and Biden expressed his intention to run for reelection that he was left with no choice under DOJ regulations.

"I thought that is an extraordinary circumstance and well-fitting within the regulations to provide a level of independence and accountability that fit within the special counsel regulations," Garland said.
Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, pressed Garland over leaks that have been reported following the FBI's search of Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate last August. Cruz said he believed the leaks were "to set a predicate" for an eventual indictment of Trump.

Garland disavowed the leaks, calling them a "violation of our regulations and our requirements."
 
So, my question to Mr D'Antuono is - if the taking of a large amount of classified records from the White House is a potential national security threat, then why isn't it a concern of the FBI of which the DOJ saw it as being a very serious problem?

Perhaps because they were being guarded by the Secret Service 24/7/365? There was zero threat to national security. Zero.
 
Perhaps because they were being guarded by the Secret Service 24/7/365? There was zero threat to national security. Zero.
One must wonder just how well protected those documents were, when it was promised that all documents had been turned over to the NARA when DJT was pressed for them - AND not all had been turned over as proven by the legal search warrant on August 8, 2022.

Then there just was another box of documents discovered a few weeks ago that was at a West Palm Beach office. Who was protecting that box of documents? SS would be with DJT, not a box of documents somewhere else.

As far as DJT's SS, all who are loyal to DJT, I'd not trust any of them with properly watching over them 24/7 or even reporting mishandling/foul play concerning said classified documents being stashed at Mar-a-Lago or at other locations.
 
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