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Prosecutor openly engages in criminal activity against George Zimmerman

mak2 said:
I am not sure, was it an honest mistake? Do you think she was trying to contaminate the jury pool?
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I think she definately wanted the photos of Martin out there, to cojure up sympathy. I believe it is possibly potential jury tampering. This definately makes it harder for the defense to have an unbiased jury and ultimately a fair trial. I don't think the judge will consider a change of venue, or replacing Corey. But it shows another shady tactic of this prosecution team that might just come back to haunt her.....
 
The ongoing smear campaign to feed people such as Sharon and Furionova.

But I think it more of her endlessly demonstrating GZ that IN REALITY he has NO legal rights, NO legal protections and that he cannot stop her or the judge's grotesque and illegal misconduct continuing to try to force him to plea guilty for a deal.

We already know the prosecutor spit on the constitution in relation to juries deciding cases - ie the grand jury that the banned from determining if GZ should be charged (as required by the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights.)
 
joko104 said:
Zimmerman Prosecutors In Huge Screw-Up | The Smoking Gun

She should be removed from the case, sanctioned by the bar association and prosecuted.
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She probably will be sanctioned by the judge. Personally? I think it was accidental. It's not like she tucked it into an envelope and mailed it. Somebody screwed up. If this was more inflammatory, then I might be inclined to think it was an engineers "oops." But there's no smoking gun, so why would she risk censure?
 
Masada said:
I think she definately wanted the photos of Martin out there, to cojure up sympathy. I believe it is possibly potential jury tampering. This definately makes it harder for the defense to have an unbiased jury and ultimately a fair trial. I don't think the judge will consider a change of venue, or replacing Corey. But it shows another shady tactic of this prosecution team that might just come back to haunt her.....
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Meh. No sympathy garnered with that photo. Frankly, Sharon said it best -- the photo looks like a sparkler.
 
Even though the prosectution notified the various news outlet that the material is "confidential", that does not excuse the error.
The public knows that the news media are wolves and will do about anything to boost ratings.

IMO, this is a blow against the prosecution. I think it was intential because the M2 case is not that solid. You just have to look at some TM supporters on this site and how they portray GZ.
 
DNA is now demonstrating HOW MANY people are sent to prison wrongly. When you explore those cases you always find the same - the prosecution was based upon generally smearing the defendant as a bad person - watched porn, said something bad to someone about his/her spouse, had an affair, used drugs, uses obscene language, posted bizarre or radical messages online, putting people on the stand who don't like the defendant to say he is a scary person, that he hurt someone's feelings, an ex to testify he has a tempter etc, etc.

That is why the extreme smear campaign against GZ. The evidence leads to a simple reality "we don't know" and "we don't know" is not guilty under law. But if the prosecutor can make jurors so dislike GZ it won't matter.

Secondly, though, I have often pointed out bizarre and extreme ways the prosecutor and judge are demonstrating to GZ the deck is stacked against him and he can forget about normal due process. It began with banning a grand jury review. Continued with officers threatened, the chief fired etc who said there is no case. His being put into solitary confinement. The incessant releasing of personal information and private conversations. Non-stop personal attacks having nothing to do with the case itself. To constantly and openly try to degrade him and break his spirit, to humiliate him publicly in ways having exactly nothing to do with the case whatsoever. This is just more of it.

This is the most despicable display of injustice in the criminal justice system I have seen because it is ongoing and always worsening and escalating.

The purpose of the illegal release of confidential information is to portray GZ as a loser and failure. People don't like losers. They like winners. It also is to offset that TM was on his 3rd school suspension - clear proof that he was a run-amuck teen and largely out-of-control.

TM's school records were not accidentaly put in an envelope and mailed. There have been NO accidental releases of prosecution protected evidence by the prosecutor. This is way to big a case for an oops - particularly an oops to the media that is the next smear by the prosecution against GZ.

I'd give you 10 to 1 odds the judge will not sanction the prosecutor. He would the defense, but he won't the prosecutor. We'll see if I'm correct on that.
 
mike2810 said:
Even though the prosectution notified the various news outlet that the material is "confidential", that does not excuse the error.
The public knows that the news media are wolves and will do about anything to boost ratings.

IMO, this is a blow against the prosecution. I think it was intential because the M2 case is not that solid. You just have to look at some TM supporters on this site and how they portray GZ.
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IF the prosecution did that, it shows premediated deliberate criminal conduct. There is no "accident" if they advised it is confidential with the release. Rather, it was calculated, deliberate illegal action and a crime against George Zimmerman. To release it to the media while stating it is confidential and therefore could not have been released, is just stressed the prosecution wants it published.
 
I don't know enough about criminal procedure to say what should happen. It was a grievous error, and the first question should be "how does this impact the defendant's right to a fair trial?" One remedy would be to eliminate any potential juror who admits to having seen the photos, or even anyone who admits to hearing they were released. Whether or not that'd be an adequate remedy, I have no idea.

All I can say is, I'm not among those who suppose the ADA responsible acted with malice. Try to imagine how many hours a day she must be spending just responding to media requests. They are surely asking for everything and anything they can think of -- and I have no doubt she's tired and stressed. This case cannot make her career, but it can sure kill it.
 
Pinkie said:
I don't know enough about criminal procedure to say what should happen. It was a grievous error, and the first question should be "how does this impact the defendant's right to a fair trial?" One remedy would be to eliminate any potential juror who admits to having seen the photos, or even anyone who admits to hearing they were released. Whether or not that'd be an adequate remedy, I have no idea.

All I can say is, I'm not among those who suppose the ADA responsible acted with malice. Try to imagine how many hours a day she must be spending just responding to media requests. They are surely asking for everything and anything they can think of -- and I have no doubt she's tired and stressed. This case cannot make her career, but it can sure kill it.
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The problem goes beyond just who saw the photos, but what floating around general contempt of GZ there is and, more importantly, his privacy has forever been violated regardless of if he is found not guilty. That is the reason actions should be taken against the prosecutor. The damage is forever permanent and can no more be undone than a rape can be undone.

GZ may have been tired and stressed too. I have not seen anyone saying that is an excuse for anything. Its not like the prosecutor is short staffed on this case.

This was NOT from a required release to the defense team. This was a not-required press release by the prosecutor openly seeking publicity by the release. It would be like if someone took pictures via a hidden camera placed in your bedroom of you, posted those photos on websites - and then said "oh, it just was a mistake, that wasn't suppose to go online. I was just tired and mistakenly posted those photos on websites where I can't retract them. I didn't mean to cause you any harm."

And it is notable that information has exactly no relevancy whatsoever to the case and therefore was not case evidence. Rather, this was the prosecutor's office using its muscle to obtain confidential school records irrelevant to the case and then illegally sending them to the media in a press release with those materials specifically to release smearing, non-case relevant confidential information about Zimmerman. Maybe next they'll accidentally release a video of him on the toilet in the jail so people can laugh at him as the next "oops, didn't mean to send that to the AP wire service, don't know how that happened."
 
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mak2 said:
I am not sure, was it an honest mistake? Do you think she was trying to contaminate the jury pool?
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I saw the photo of "Trayvon".. it was completely dark gray with what appeared to be a sparkler.. You know, like kids enjoy on the 4th.

There was NO shape or definition.. No one would have ever mistaken it for a body.. just light specks.
 
MaggieD said:
She probably will be sanctioned by the judge. Personally? I think it was accidental. It's not like she tucked it into an envelope and mailed it. Somebody screwed up. If this was more inflammatory, then I might be inclined to think it was an engineers "oops." But there's no smoking gun, so why would she risk censure?
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Maggie.. there was NOTHING to see. The photo was solid dark gray with light speckles.. You would NEVER think it was a picture of anything but perhaps a kid's sparkler on a very dark foggy night.

George has not been harmed.. He has his website .. His parents have their website.. the more notoriety they get the more donations they get.
 
Is the prosecution required to disclose documents which the State might use as reubuttal? Would the judge prevent the use of photos or documents, as evidence on cross examination, if the State did not disclose the documents and photos to the defense in a timely manner?
 
You mean the same prosecutor that submitted an affidavit that had half a dozen clearly and readily demonstrable lies in it?

Nothing n this case surprises me at this point; pretty sad testament of the (il)legal system Florida.
 
Gladiator said:
Is the prosecution required to disclose documents which the State might use as reubuttal? Would the judge prevent the use of photos or documents, as evidence on cross examination, if the State did not disclose the documents and photos to the defense in a timely manner?
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Yes, but what must be sent to defense counsel is not the same as what may be obtained by the media. I'd imagine it's fairly common for a state to prohibit distribution to the public of autopsy photos, etc. And it's obvious why that is -- it'd contaminate the jury pool, it'd inflict grievous suffering on the victim's family, etc.
 
Pinkie said:
Yes, but what must be sent to defense counsel is not the same as what may be obtained by the media. I'd imagine it's fairly common for a state to prohibit distribution to the public of autopsy photos, etc. And it's obvious why that is -- it'd contaminate the jury pool, it'd inflict grievous suffering on the victim's family, etc.
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Ya, gee, and it's not like florida prosecutors don't have the anthony case emblazoned n their collective minds on "**** you just don't do" as a prosecutor/police department,

This reads like a chapter right out of that disaster.
 
joko104 said:
IF the prosecution did that, it shows premediated deliberate criminal conduct. There is no "accident" if they advised it is confidential with the release. Rather, it was calculated, deliberate illegal action and a crime against George Zimmerman. To release it to the media while stating it is confidential and therefore could not have been released, is just stressed the prosecution wants it published.
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You obviously didn't see the photo... but carry on.
 
Stardog said:
You have to prove it was intentional. Good luck!
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What does that mean? If a person mails confidential material in a press release to the media that is a positive act. There is no presumption of accidental illegal activity.

If a person is pulled over for speeding, it does not have to be proven the person was intentionally speeding. Only that the person was. To prove an illegal disclosure of confidential information it only has to be proven it was illegally disclosed.
 
sharon said:
You obviously didn't see the photo... but carry on.
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You obviously are again wrong and seem so fixated you don't even read. AND ANOTHER STUPID POST too.

Releasing the nothingness photo supposedly of TM somehow was no offense against GZ. Releasing his school records was. That is NOT a photograph.

AND since you have repeatedly posted that information as more hateful personally attacking and sneering about GZ unrelated to the case you KNOW it is not just about a photograph - so additionally again there seems be is no integrity in what you posted.
 
joko104 said:
You obviously are again wrong and seem so fixated you don't even read. AND ANOTHER STUPID POST too.

Releasing the nothingness photo supposedly of TM somehow was no offense against GZ. Releasing his school records was. That is NOT a photograph.

AND since you have repeatedly posted that information as more hateful personally attacking and sneering about GZ unrelated to the case you KNOW it is not just about a photograph - so additionally again there seems be is no integrity in what you posted.
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I don't think his school records make much difference.. except to point up his lies to Serino, to Hannity, to Singleton. He's got quite a track record.

What did more damage and compromised his case was his Hannity interview and his video reenactment.

George does everything wrong... Even his 'thank you' video to try and raise funds makes him look like a psycho.

I have never seen anything like it.
 
sharon said:
I don't think his school records make much difference.. except to point up his lies to Serino, to Hannity, to Singleton. He's got quite a track record.

What did more damage and compromised his case was his Hannity interview and his video reenactment.

George does everything wrong... Even his 'thank you' video to try and raise funds makes him look like a psycho.

I have never seen anything like it.
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Not going to agree to let you derail this thread and it appears your goal on this forum is to derail all these topics.

The actions of the prosecutor issuing a press release with George Zimmerman's academic records was illegal and a grotesque violation of a government official releasing statutorily protected confidential information. Angela Corey should be prosecuted, a civil suit should be filed against her and the county seeking a restraining order against her, removed from the case and sanctioned by the bar association.
 
joko104 said:

Not going to agree to let you derail this thread and it appears your goal on this forum is to derail all these topics.

The actions of the prosecutor issuing a press release with George Zimmerman's academic records was illegal and a grotesque violation of a government official releasing statutorily protected confidential information. Angela Corey should be prosecuted, a civil suit should be filed against her and the county seeking a restraining order against her, removed from the case and sanctioned by the bar association.
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Sure it was.
And it is part and parcel of things that Prosecutors get away with all the time.

So there is no sense complaining about it. It is done. They get away with it.

Can't change it.

Drive on.


And while trying to prevent Sharon from trying to derail, is noble, she will just continue to do so because she can not see her actions as wrong.
So it is pretty much a fruitless endeavor.
The best thing to do is point out her attempt at derailing, and continue on topic.
 
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