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Prop C passes overwhelmingly

You know Prof I could remove you from my ignore list to see what you said, but it would be waste of time, and I'm sure it's along the same lines as the nonsense J-Mac posts. I think I'll just keep you on the ignore mode.

i know, you already told me
 

the gop is successfully filibustering obama's baby small biz bill because leadership refuses to allow amendments to the floor to address this:

Health care law's hidden tax change to launch 1099 avalanche - May. 5, 2010

the leader knows if he opens debate he will lose conrad, lincoln, dorgan, lieberman, ben, bayh...

it is what it is
 
If you think health care costs are just fine the way they are you're either very ignorant or...

Dems retreat on health care cost pitch - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com

Report: Health overhaul will increase tab - Politics - Health care reform - msnbc.com

Report: Health Care Reform Will Increase Costs - CBS News

I say let the rest of the states reform health care and let Missouri do it's own thing.

you think the pissed off expressions spat by SEVENTY ONE PERCENT of show me's is CONFINED to missouri, the most bellwether commonwealth in the union?

LOL!
 
LiberalAvenger said:
The republicans have offered no solutions except cut spending and taxes ...
And the last time they had power they got half of that wrong and the tax cuts, by their own design, are set to expire soon. But they double promise to be different this time....LOL...:2rofll:
 
jiltin joe, stiffneck nelson and kent conrad, budget chair and the gatekeeper's right hand, are ON RECORD---extend bush cuts to all

Kent Conrad, Senate Budget Chairman, Wants To Extend Bush Tax Cuts Without Paying For Them

that would mean there are others for whom they speak, senators with similar sentiments who've so far held their silence (in public)

do the apologists around here come across as adolescent to anyone else?

either way, party on!
 
No matter how many times you post and get worked up into a lather Prof I'm not taking you off of my ignore list.

eace
 

I don't recall any extinction theory emerging from 1994. Remember, we had about 40-years of Dem control in those chambers... so nobody was thinking extinction... only euphoria at the result achieved. No lost seats at any level... House, Senate, Governorships.


All their time? I doubt it... but I hope they do spend some time. Sestak, and other such misdeeds need be investigated. It's the job of government to investigate such things. Or do some president's get a free pass?

Shutting down government wouldn't be bad. If they could do it for 6 months of the year, perhaps 8... after we repeal ObiKare... extend the Bush tax cuts, and then reduce some more... fine with me. These busy bodies are too involved with our lives... during their 4 to 6-months in session, perhaps they can work on repealing these burdens one-by-one.

Osama??? Osama... since when had you folks cared what Osama thinks? When you folks were bashing the war effort... emboldening our enemies... did you ever think of Osama and his Journolists at al Jazeera or any other hate America network?

No... you kept plunging the dagger into the backs of our troops day-after-day... but of course you supported the troops but not the mission? How coy.

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It was a very low voter turnout considering only about 17% of the electorate in Missouri actually showed up to vote. So that would be about what, 5% of the "show me's" that favored Prop C? IMO, the low voter turnout is more of bellweather, than a few tea partiers voting for what they little understand.
 
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Dug yourselves into an even deeper economic whole, increased useless defense spending, severed more alliances, and hastened the fall of America at an ever-increasing speed?

It's not defense spending that causes problems. It is social programs and entitlements.

I'd love to see the world where the US sat back and did nothing. Watching the Euros and Asians getting eaten alive by the Commies.

Hell, the Euros couldn't even clean up a mess in their back yard. They whined about the Balkans... protested to get us into that conflict... a battle we had no national security interest in. Because they were so lame.

That "useless defense spending" has elevated the quality of weapons to the level that we can pin point targets... saving lives. I'd wouldn't mind going back the the carpet bombing days personally. That way the leftists and media wouldn't whine when we have a smidgen of collateral damage. We'd just flatten an area and start over. The good 'ol days.

There is a saying, "peace through strength"... and as we defend the western world... the ingrates should be thankful we have been around and are around protecting their sorry asses... yes it does cost a bit. Perhaps foreign governments should help share the burden.

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Examples or links please.

EnigmaO01 said:
J-Mac doesn't believe in any examples or verification. If it feels good he says it.


Oh, how very cute of you two....Here I'll quote an obvious hero of yours here, Robert Gibbs: "Although you may be entitled to your own opinions, as misguided as they may be, you are not entitled to your own facts"...

Remember this:


It just isn't honest for liberals to be saying now that Republicans have offered nothing, no alternatives, when Obama himself said that he receives these alternatives from them, reads them, then steals what he can from them.

This is but one example.


j-mac
 

nonsense, voter turnout on aug 3 was 23%

NEWS RELEASE: Unofficial Missouri primary turnout was 23% - Boonville, MO - Boonville Daily News

very normal for an offyear primary

Carnahan Releases Voter Turnout Estimates for August 8 Primary - Kansas City infoZine News

indeed, this year 579,000 red show me's showed up, compared to a depressed and deflated 318,000 dems

that's a ratio of 1.82 to 1

State Of Missouri | All Races

by the way, missouri's status as bellwether commonwealth is wik-wide famous

Missouri bellwether - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

worry

and LINK! show some self respect
 
Where did the people go who said Republicans will pick up a majority in the Senate? I like how people say things without backing it up, not surprised at all though.

Say things without backing them up... pro-bipart... sometimes it is obvious, and the Journolists require time to report the obvious, like a puppy that shat himself... their noses have to be dragged through the poop to discover what is what.

They hoped for change amongst the electorate, like the good propagandists they are... now some it seems, some Journolists have had weak moments (see below).


ROTFLOL... and Obama just added fuel to the fire with his remarks about taxation.

We got what we voted for. An empty suit with some slogans short enough so he didn't have to read them from a telepromteur.

In less than a couple months... the first step in correcting this travesty time will have been executed.

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Pro-bipartisan:

You wanted evidence, the bad news keeps trickling in.
To paraphrase Harry Reid, "Your war is lost."


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Obama's electoral coalition is crumbling - Los Angeles Times

obama's coalition which got him elected---blacks, hispanics, women, youths and burbers---pew, as cited by the LA times, finds support in 4 of those 5 groups is plummeting ala independents

asked to describe the presidential putz in one word the most common response is, "disappointing"

interviewees' observations reveal the truth is getting out, the public (even ex coalition cronies) is on to THE MAN

"hoodwinked by a smooth talking politician"

"let down"

probably because of my "lofty expectations" and "naivety"

"an absolutely fantastic campaigner" who "doesn't have the skill to legislate, to build coalitions"

a "preacher-poet-professor," he "does not have the skill to bring people in"

"leadership skills have been lacking"

he "seems to dismiss opinions that differ with his vision"

"we were told the influence of lobbyists would be blunted, it has not been"

"we were told that obama would find a way to work in a bipartisan fashion"

"we were told he would go line by line thru the budget and get rid of wasteful spending"

"it really comes down to the individual," meaning THE MAN, ie, barry

what's there to disagree with?

embarrassed yet?
 

Embarrassed? No, not really, since Obama's ratings mirror Reagan's ratings during his second year in office. But then I must admit I'm embarrassed that I voted for Reagan, twice. :3oops:

Barack Obama and Ronald Reagan: Approval Ratings, Economy Link First Two Years - ABC News

It's uncanny.
 
hmm, comparisons between barry hussein and dear ronnie...

the polls, the unemployment rate...

fine, but you can't see that one big difference?

LOL!

why, it's fundamental
 
hmm, comparisons between barry hussein and dear ronnie...

the polls, the unemployment rate...

fine, but you can't see that one big difference?

LOL!

why, it's fundamental

ROTFL. Yeah, the difference is so fundamental, Ronnie raised payroll taxes on the middle class, increased the size of government and lowered taxes for the wealthy which resulted in the largest budget deficit since WW2 turning the US from the largest creditor nation, to the largest debtor nation in the world.

 
and the people LOVED him
 
What are they going to do send in the Federal Troops to force people to buy healthcare like they did with desegregation? If the state governor holds firm then **** the Feds let them try to enforce their bull****.

No silly goose. The Feds will let them opt out, then cancel all of their Federal appropriations.
 

37 democrat senators and 133 democrat congressmen voted for the Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981, but the bill was 100% Reagan's fault??

Typical lib.
 
No, you cons worshipped himn as a god, but that is about it.

Yeah, I guess that's why he won reelection with 585 of the popular voted and 525 electoral votes, the most in history. He also won 49 states, losing only Minnesota, Mondale's home state, by 3,800 votes.

58% of the country must have been "cons". :roll:
 
No, you cons worshipped himn as a god, but that is about it.

LOL!

the gip grabbed 45 states in 80, 49 in 84

he took NEW YORK and MASSACHUSSETTS twice---for example

why, his comprehensive success has become so universally recognized even the present poser made his obeisance, it was obligatory

Daily Kos: Obama "I think Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America"

everything changed after dear ronnie's funeral, the haters came around

do you remember dear ronnie's funeral?
 
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37 democrat senators and 133 democrat congressmen voted for the Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981, but the bill was 100% Reagan's fault??

Typical lib.
The Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981 was repealed in 1982 with the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982, before it could take effect.....



Typical con hypocricy.
 
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