Rambozo
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Evolution doesn't matter in contemporary societies. Evolutionary drives are just outdated impulses from our ancestral past.Evolution doesn’t care about the individual- only the survival and propagation of the species. Rape or cheating on your spouse is not conducive to that.
Modern, developed countries enshrine individual rights and freedoms into the law, which go far above our basic survival needs (which could be met in a prison cell). Perhaps some 3rd world country like China or North Korea is collectivist and authoritarian, but not America or Europe.
Which is further proof that instincts don't play a significant role in our contemporary moral sentiments.
Right, and there are certain reasons why people are hostile to rape to begin with.While it’s true that rape can, in some isolated cases, result in reproduction, it’s not a stable, sustainable, or widespread reproductive strategy, especially among such highly social species like primates.
In most social species (including humans), it creates hostility, social exclusion, and retaliation, which actually lowers survival and reproductive chances overall. That’s why you don’t see it as a dominant evolutionary strategy among primates.
Again, you seem to be imagining that their is no difference between a 3rd world Islamic country, where wife-beating and child marriage are social norms, and a modern, developed culture where such things are viewed as abhorrant.
So no, our moral and social sentiments go far, far above the minimum of what would be required to merely "survive". People have "survived" for centuries in undeveloped nations where child marriage and forced marriage are social norms, but those things would never be acceptable in the developed world, and for good reason.
There is quite a bit of difference between humans and other primates. Such as how we have complex legal and ethical frameworks, which establish concepts such as human rights, consent, and so forth. And how we develop many rational moral and ethical arguments against social ills such as rape.Like many primates, humans have evolved to live in complex cooperative societies where trust, reciprocity, and fairness matter far more for long-term flourishing of the species than raw reproductive success. Cheating or coercion undermines the very social bonds that humans rely on to thrive. So even if reproductive impulses are piwerful and important to species propagation, such social behavior, like not being a rapist, is even more important for managing life in a way that sustains stable, functional, even thriving communities.
There is nothing otherworldly or fundamentally different about this for humans than other social primate species.