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Proof of God

They havent been supported but feel free to prove me wrong and try. Until then they can be dismissed as nothing more than your personal beliefs and meaningless for any proofs
They have been supported but feel free to express your unsupported opinion and to dismiss whatever is inconvenient to your unsupported opinionation in every and any post of yours. Amen.
 
Differences which were based on my statement



It is the definition for that statement an any attempt by another person to change that definition in that statement is an attemopt to make a strawman such as you continue to attempt with my statement
No, differences ranging from morality to abortion to the existence of God.
That it is the definition used in your statement is not in question. You've invented a new discursive decoy -- the straw man defense. Kudos.
 
Ye sit was an insult

Yes I get that is your belief but it is unsupported by any logic, reason or evidence and thus is meaningless for any argument. You are also making claims about the nature of God (being necessary) as opposed to just the existence of God
No, it was not an insult. Or calling it an insult is an insult.
My views are all supported by "logic, reason or evidence" -- your unsupported opinion to the contrary notwithstanding.
Your last opinion -- "You are also making claims about the nature of God (being necessary) as opposed to just the existence of God" -- is interesting and may even be correct, and your fans would like to hear your argument.
 
You cut out the agreement with the quotes including my statement
The Agreement

So yeah it was part of the OP and in fact it was the pertinant part of the OP as proven by my subsequent posts where you didnt argue the subvejct (my staetment) was the topic beign discussed
No, it was the agreement that gave rise to the dedicated thread and the OP, which was to be about our philosophical differences.
Besides which, you confess in the Agreement that you have no idea what we will be discussing in the dedicated thread so you can hardly claim now that you did.
 
No, the word god as you use it is the key. Every time someone uses one of the many other definitions of god in regard to your two questions you say they must use the generic definition. So it is entirely dependent on the definition you use.
The key to the distinction I insist on making. What don't you understand about this? It's quite straightforward.
 
The key to the distinction I insist on making. What don't you understand about this? It's quite straightforward.

That you insist on making a distinction using a word loaded with meaning is the very problem.
 
That you insist on making a distinction using a word loaded with meaning is the very problem.
Come again? A word without meaning is a meaningless sign. I don't understand what point you're trying to make here. If you reply, please identify the word you have in your sights.
 
They have been supported but feel free to express your unsupported opinion and to dismiss whatever is inconvenient to your unsupported opinionation in every and any post of yours. Amen.

Still no support we can dismiss this claim as false as you refuse to try and support it
 
No, differences ranging from morality to abortion to the existence of God.
That it is the definition used in your statement is not in question. You've invented a new discursive decoy -- the straw man defense. Kudos.
Now you are just trying to divert by accusing me of what you were actually trying to do
Didnt work every other time you tried that and it wont work this time
 
No, it was not an insult. Or calling it an insult is an insult.
Yes it was
[quot]My views are all supported by "logic, reason or evidence" -- your unsupported opinion to the contrary notwithstanding.[/quot]
You got that backwards
Your last opinion -- "You are also making claims about the nature of God (being necessary) as opposed to just the existence of God" -- is interesting and may even be correct, and your fans would like to hear your argument.
God need not be necessary thus claiming God is is dealing with ther nature of God and not the existence of God
 
No, it was the agreement that gave rise to the dedicated thread and the OP, which was to be about our philosophical differences.
Besides which, you confess in the Agreement that you have no idea what we will be discussing in the dedicated thread so you can hardly claim now that you did.

The agreement was what we were discussing untill you ran away
 
Do you want a discussion? all of you posts tell me you don't.
It is you who refuse to engage (as always)

Ill try again
any argument whose premises are nothing more than beleifs/opinions results in a conclusion that is nothing more than a belief/opinion
 
Yes it was
[quot]My views are all supported by "logic, reason or evidence" -- your unsupported opinion to the contrary notwithstanding.[/quot]
You got that backwards

God need not be necessary thus claiming God is is dealing with ther nature of God and not the existence of God

4. If God exists, God must exist. (definition)

That's where the OP proof fails. And that has been pointed out repeatedly.
 
4. If God exists, God must exist. (definition)

That's where the OP proof fails. And that has been pointed out repeatedly.

Its not the only place where it fails.
 
Come again? A word without meaning is a meaningless sign. I don't understand what point you're trying to make here. If you reply, please identify the word you have in your sights.

The word god has many meanings to many people. You insist on giving it the meaning you want it to have and expecting everyone to accept that meaning. Your proof depends entirely on the meaning you insist on. So the definition is more important than the proof.
 
Good, the Ontological Argument is very strong when you understand

Good post
 
Now you are just trying to divert by accusing me of what you were actually trying to do
Didnt work every other time you tried that and it wont work this time
No, you're trying to avoid discussion by any means possible. I don't blame you, mind you.
 
...God need not be necessary thus claiming God is is dealing with ther nature of God and not the existence of God
No, the interesting thing you said was that talk about God's being necessary is talk about God's nature. Maybe you didn't understand what you said. Or maybe I understood you better than you do. But this business quoted is a run-on sentence that is barely readable, but to the extent that it is readable strays from the interesting point I apparently read into your earlier post.
 
The agreement was what we were discussing untill you ran away
I didn't run away; I just gave up on a hopeless case. You refused to discuss belief, the very first order of business -- and this after others told you you were being unreasonable.
 
It is you who refuse to engage (as always)

Ill try again
any argument whose premises are nothing more than beleifs/opinions results in a conclusion that is nothing more than a belief/opinion
So what?
 
The word god has many meanings to many people. You insist on giving it the meaning you want it to have and expecting everyone to accept that meaning. Your proof depends entirely on the meaning you insist on. So the definition is more important than the proof.
Defining one's terms is the mark of good discourse. You apparently don't know this. Stop posting to me for the sake of posting. If you have nothing to say, say it to someone else.
 
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