Proof (IMO) that the Qur'an was not divinely revealed.

[stevecanuck]

What if the observer is blind?

Aw, c'mon. You're better than that.

Not all evidence is visual in nature, and when it is, it can be described to a blind person.

Do better.

 

[Daisy]

Aw, c'mon. You're better than that.

Not all evidence is visual in nature, and when it is, it can be described to a blind person.

Do better.

Bingo...there are different types of blindness, is there not?

 

[stevecanuck]

No proof is needed the Quran is not divinely inspired. It's merely a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy.

It started out that way. The first 12 years and 86 surahs were little more than mind-numbing repetitions of OT stories. Then after the Hijrah, Mohamed turned it into a unique and decidedly militaristic creed of supremacy by any means.

 

[bomberfox]

Who is your target audience here? If its someone other than a muslim, we are already there with you. If it's a Muslim, they will not be persuaded.

Theres plenty of ex muslims out there

 

[stevecanuck]

Bingo...there are different types of blindness, is there not?

And here you're mixing the literal with the figurative.

 

[Daisy]

And here you're mixing the literal with the figurative.

Is that not what faith is?

 

[stevecanuck]

Theres plenty of ex muslims out there

Yes, and it takes a brave person to leave Islam. If one does it openly in some countries, they will likely be killed either by a mob or by the government.

 

[stevecanuck]

Is that not what faith is?

If God is figurative, then you're talking to yourself when you pray.

 

[Daisy]

If God is figurative, then you're talking to yourself when you pray.

What some call figurative, others would call spiritual...either way, they not seen with the naked eye...

 

[ASHES]

Yes, and it takes a brave person to leave Islam. If one does it openly in some countries, they will likely be killed either by a mob or by the government.

Yeah the percentage of people that support death for apostasy in Islamic ruled countries is pretty dang high. Like 80% or something to my recollection, even in what we would call Western friendly ones (not even counting Saudi Arabia). Similar to the number that support death for homosexuals.

 

[poppopfox]

The selective redaction parade marches on. This one is the best example of CHAT latching onto an Islamopropagandist web site and regurgitating a lie by omission. I have NEVER seen this verse quoted along with 5:33. Why? Because it would blow a giant hole in the lie. But, thanks to your ignorance and laziness, I'm able to demonstrate how we are constantly being lied to about Islam's 'tolerance'.

No, but thanks for the insult.
“The insult dishonors the one who infers it, not the one who receives it.” -Diógenes the cynic

 

[poppopfox]

Aw, c'mon. You're better than that.

Not all evidence is visual in nature, and when it is, it can be described to a blind person.

Do better.

How would you describe a rainbow to a blind man?

 

[poppopfox]

And by "address", you mean "command".



Nope, as I've already shown.



As defined by Mohamed. Not letting him take over the Kaaba is what he calls "oppression".

"Upholding justice" means to pracrice Islam.



Muslim life. Verse 4:92 starts with "And never is it for a believer to kill a believer ...." Did you miss all those verses that tell Muslims to kill?



I think that's been put to bed.

Nope. Only in the Islamaphobe head.

9:29 - "Fight those who believe not in Allah ....."

"Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius."

Aaaaaaannnddddd, finish with a dash of whataboutism.

None of the Abrahamic religions have peace and love as core values.

 

[stevecanuck]

No, but thanks for the insult.
“The insult dishonors the one who infers it, not the one who receives it.” -Diógenes the cynic

Your post did NOT come with a qualifier, which means we get to infer that you agree with it.

I've spent the last 24 years analyzing and summarizing the Qur'an, and you spend two minutes with ChatGPT. Pardon me if I call that lazy.

 

[stevecanuck]

How would you describe a rainbow to a blind man?

Exactly as it is. He would be forced to take my word for it.

 

[stevecanuck]

Nope. Only in the Islamaphobe head.

Then turn the tables on me. I showed how you disengenuously pasted Chat's biased response. I addressed every point.

Your turn. What did I get wrong? Or is 'but, but, but......................ISLAMOPHOBE!!!!" all you have. Sure looks like it.

"Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius."

The least you could whatabout is to quote the bible rather than a pope.

None of the Abrahamic religions have peace and love as core values.

Christianity comes the closest with Jesus.

 

[poppopfox]

Which you own because you posted it.

No one owns facts. But they can deny them which is what you are about.

Again, you own it because you posted it. If you had said someone like "I dont have any personal knowledge of this, but here is what ChatGPT had to say. Do you agree with it?", then perhaps I would have responded in a less personal manner. Apologies.

I didn't use ChatGPT. And no, I neither agree or disagree.

I'm 'angry' because I hate being lied to, and anyone who tries to say Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance is telling a massive lie. I'm pretty sure I successfully rejected every point that Chat tried to sneak past us. Do you agree?

Nope. Your anger is on you. Admit it and own it. I took a Theology course at a Catholic University taught by a Franciscan priest. He claimed Islam was a religion of peace and tolerance. What are your credentials? Did you study the Koran with a Iman, or are you just preaching hate by cherrypicking the Koran?

 

[poppopfox]

Exactly as it is. He would be forced to take my word for it.

Sure, just like we're supposed to take your word about Islam.

 

[poppopfox]

Then turn the tables on me. I showed how you disengenuously pasted Chat's biased response. I addressed every point.

You think?

Your turn. What did I get wrong? Or is 'but, but, but......................ISLAMOPHOBE!!!!" all you have. Sure looks like it.

Your hatred of the Islamic religion is obvious.

The least you could whatabout is to quote the bible rather than a pope.

The Bible is no different than the Qu'ran.

Christianity comes the closest with Jesus.

Sure? Tell me, what happened during the Heretic Crusade, the Spanish Inquisition, the genocide in the Americas, etc,. etc.?

 

[stevecanuck]

No one owns facts. But they can deny them which is what you are about.

Name one thing I got wrong.

This is fun watching you shoot one blank after another.

I didn't use ChatGPT. And no, I neither agree or disagree.

Fine, it was another AI tool. So what?

And yes you own it if you post it. Why else would you have done it???

Nope. Your anger is on you. Admit it and own it. I took a Theology course at a Catholic University taught by a Franciscan priest. He claimed Islam was a religion of peace and tolerance.

A Catholic priest told you all about Islam? What are his credentials?

What are your credentials? Did you study the Koran with a Iman, or are you just preaching hate by cherrypicking the Koran?

The Qur'an says that all you need to understand Islam is the Qur'an. That was my study material.

Remember, YOU did the "cherry picking" by (mis)quoting those verses. I simply kicked you in the cherries.

BTW, why the hell don't you quit while you're behind. You have nothing, AND you know it. Seriously, why are you putting yourself through all of this embarrassment?

 

[stevecanuck]

Sure, just like we're supposed to take your word about Islam.

Going into great deal about those verses you (mis)quoted is not asking you to take my word for anything.

BTW, you still working on that list of things I got wrong?

Please stop, I'm actually starting to feel some pity for you, and neither of us wants that.

 

[stevecanuck]

You think?

Errm, yeah. I did.

If I missed anything, please point it out and I'll get right on it.

Your hatred of the Islamic religion is obvious.

Of course it is. Islam is the cancer of the earth, and it's metastasizing before our eyes. "Heil Hitler" is German for "Allahu akbar". I hope that is clear enough for you.

The Bible is no different than the Qu'ran.

Gratuitous and utterly absurd false equivalence.

Sure? Tell me, what happened during the Heretic Crusade, the Spanish Inquisition, the genocide in the Americas, etc,. etc.?

The exact opposite of what 'Jesus' taught. The...exact...opposite.

Do you know what happened on Oct. 7, 2023? The exact parallel of what Mohamed did to the Banu Qurayza tribe of Yathrib.

 

[poppopfox]

Name one thing I got wrong.

This is fun watching you shoot one blank after another.



Fine, it was another AI tool. So what?

And yes you own it if you post it. Why else would you have done it???



A Catholic priest told you all about Islam? What are his credentials?



The Qur'an says that all you need to understand Islam is the Qur'an. That was my study material.

So home schooled?

Remember, YOU did the "cherry picking" by (mis)quoting those verses. I simply kicked you in the cherries.

Sure. I misquoted.

BTW, why the hell don't you quit while you're behind. You have nothing, AND you know it. Seriously, why are you putting yourself through all of this embarrassment?

You lost the argument by posting all the ad homs. Declaring yourself the victor is pathetic ignorance at play.

 

[stevecanuck]

So home schooled?

Sure. I misquoted.

You lost the argument by posting all the ad homs. Declaring yourself the victor is pathetic ignorance at play.

Good for you.

For the record, you didn't even try to rebutt any of my responses. Why do you suppose that is?

We done yet?

 

[poppopfox]

Good for you.

For the record, you didn't even try to rebutt any of my res,ponses. Why do you suppose that is?

They were ignorant, irrelevant and hateful!

We done yet?

I'm done. Find someone else to continue your Islamophobic pissing contest with.