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Mashmont said:
I am black. It doesn't make sense that I hate blacks, but YOU sure do. You hate blacks and Catholics. And Jews too, I would assume.
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Keep going.


You hate gays, minorities, seniors, the disabled, the poor, immigrants, muslims, atheists, women and children.


You have said so many times on here.


Hey guys....did I leave anyone out?
 
vegas giants said:
Keep going.


You hate gays, minorities, seniors, the disabled, the poor, immigrants, muslims, atheists, women and children.


You have said so many times on here.


Hey guys....did I leave anyone out?
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Everyone who disagrees with him, the billions of evil left-wing Marxist atheists.
 
zyzygy said:
Everyone who disagrees with him, the billions of evil left-wing Marxist atheists.
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Forgot the marxists. Which of course are moderate Democrats. Thanks
 
vegas giants said:
Keep going.


You hate gays, minorities, seniors, the disabled, the poor, immigrants, muslims, atheists, women and children.


You have said so many times on here.


Hey guys....did I leave anyone out?
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I have to confess. I have been shocked and disappointed at the amount of hatred I have received in this forum because of:

1) my race
2) my Catholilc religion
 
Mashmont said:
I have to confess. I have been shocked and disappointed at the amount of hatred I have received in this forum because of:

1) my race
2) my Catholilc religion
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And the hate you spread. That is the source of why people dont believe a word you post
 
Mashmont said:
I have to confess. I have been shocked and disappointed at the amount of hatred I have received in this forum because of:

1) my race
2) my Catholilc religion
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That's it, play victim. :roll:
 
Mashmont said:
Birth control has nothing to do providing medical attention. And you implied this group didn't have Catholics in it.
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What an incredibly ignorant and 100% false statement.
You lost another debate.
 

1. truth is subjective
2. lies are sometimes the lesser of 2 evils.
3. truth can needlessly hurt as much as small lies
4. truth is not necessarily wisdom, old time communists believed that they were living the truth/the same with the nazi faithful. I would not call their truth a sign of wisdom.

Also, plenty of wise people are not necessarily good people. Nor is a good person necessarily a wise person. A well educated and generally considered wise person can have many personality issues that make him anything but a good person. A good person can be a complete dolt with no wisdom whatsoever.

Again, none of this proves magic creatures who created the universe and mankind.
 
Mashmont said:
I have to confess. I have been shocked and disappointed at the amount of hatred I have received in this forum because of:

1) my race
2) my Catholilc religion
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Not hatred, derisive laughter.
 
vegas giants said:
And the hate you spread. That is the source of why people dont believe a word you post
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The Bible tells him to love everybody. God is going to come down on him on Judgement Day like a ton of bricks.
 
Truth is subjective, that is 'free' creation of man in his individuality. What is at the root of modern relativism?
With the term 'relativism' we indicate two things. First, an ideology whereby it is stated that there is nothing that has the character of absoluteness and immutability, but that everything is "relative" to time, places, and people in the concrete situations in which they find themselves.
Besides an ideology, the term "relativism" refers to an usual procedure, that is a concrete behavior that is not taking into account principles and moral norms based on human nature and therefore on the natural law, which is ultimately about God and divine law, that appears both from the exercise of human reason, and a divine revelation. Concretely, relativism denies any validity to the natural –rational morality and to all moral norms of origin and religious nature.
Any reference to a moral divine law and therefore transcendent, is seen by relativism as a form of fundamentalism, in the sense that it is attributed to God and religion the function of giving "meaning" to human life and to the world. "The monotheistic fundamentalism, as proponent of a unified and exclusive explanation of reality - says Prandstraller - is to be in the position of conflict than any pluralistic vision of reality and society, in general to all the doctrines which call for different and multiple sources the explanation of the world and of human life. The cultural relativist position is a cognitive and existential antinomy compared to fundamentalism, since relativism denies the Absolute, that is, the existence of entity-truths that can solve in itself all reality, existence that is, instead, at the basis of fundamentalist creed .

Truth is subjective, that is 'free' creation of man in his individuality. What is at the root of modern relativism?
 
vegas giants said:
Keep going.


You hate gays, minorities, seniors, the disabled, the poor, immigrants, muslims, atheists, women and children.


You have said so many times on here.


Hey guys....did I leave anyone out?
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At least I'm not the one with the sheet, mask, and torch.
 
Mashmont said:
At least I'm not the one with the sheet, mask, and torch.
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Are you referring to members of your congregation? Why not stick to the topic? Have you emailed your proof to the Vatican? Fame awaits you!
 
zyzygy said:
Are you referring to members of your congregation? Why not stick to the topic? Have you emailed your proof to the Vatican? Fame awaits you!
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Catholics aren't in the Klan. They're victims of the Klan.

Any idea what the three "K"s are for?

Lordy.

lol.
 
Mashmont said:
Catholics aren't in the Klan. They're victims of the Klan.

Any idea what the three "K"s are for?

Lordy.

lol.
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So you haven't emailed it. Why not?

Secretariat of State

Secretary of State, I-00120 Vatican City

Office of the Cardinal Secretary of State: vatio26@relstat-segstat.va
 
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Correction. That is a Catholic obsession. I don't hear Southern Baptists talking about saints.
 
1. Christianity Was Always Massively Varied
#christianity

'Christianity' is not a single religion dating from 2,000 years age. A long series of varied different religions, flowing on from one another, have all called themselves "Christian". Rightly so. The beliefs and form have changed so much from time to time that it is best to consider Christianity a series of religions and the word "Christianity" to be an umbrella term for multiple faiths all of which have the same name but different beliefs. Some historical forms of Christianity have made more sense, and some have made less sense, than the Christian mythology that is common today. Modern archaeology has uncovered many of these early forms of Christianity, and no longer can we say that modern-day Christianity in its various forms represents early Christianity. It hardly does. Christianity now is quite varied, but in history the varieties were much more exotic.

Some say that the reason there has been, and continues to be, so many versions of Christianity is that Christian theology contains contradictions and doesn't entirely make sense1. Different sects are different attempts at resolving problems with Christian theory. Christians themselves documented early disputes over what beliefs their movement should have. The Church Father Irenaeus (130-202CE) listed twenty forms of Christianity that he himself was aware of2. The Christian academic Origen was instrumental in the founding of Christian literary theology. In his book Against Celsus (248CE) he writes at length against a 2nd-century attack on Christianity that described it as being comprised of disparate groups. Celsus said that Christians "were divided and split up into factions, each individual desiring to have his own party. [...] Thus separated through their numbers, they confute one another. [... They] are determined in different ways by the various sects". And Origen agreed that this was the case, that "from the beginning there were differences of opinion among believers regarding the meaning of the books held to be divine" and the reason was that because important issues always cause strong differences of opinion3. The expert in ancient prime sources Prof. Bart Ehrman likewise states that one of most common causes of forgeries and fabrications was the urgent need that believers had to put across their point of view to convince others - and that, unfortunately, included the far-too-common practice of writing in other people's names4.

As Christianity continued and debate raged about the actual meaning of its various stories, the sects proliferated. In 384CE Epiphanus counted no less than 80 different forms of Christianity2.

“During the first three Christian centuries, the practices and beliefs found among people who called themselves Christian were so varied that that the differences between Roman Catholics, Primitive Baptists, and Seventh-Day Adventists pale by comparison. Most of these ancient forms of Christianity are unknown to people in the world today. In the second and third centuries there were, of course, Christians who believed in one God. But there were others who insisted that there were two. Some said there were thirty. Others claimed there were 365.”

"Lost Christianities" by Bart Ehrman (2003)5


Types of Christianity in History: Who Were the First Christians?
 
RAMOSS said:
Correction. That is a Catholic obsession. I don't hear Southern Baptists talking about saints.
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When I was a child I attended a Scottish Presbyterian church and then a Welsh methodist chapel. Saints were never mentioned.
 
RAMOSS said:
Correction. That is a Catholic obsession. I don't hear Southern Baptists talking about saints.
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I've heard them invoke St. Paul quite often.
 
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