Progressives Will Save the GOP.....

[MMC]

S.E. Cupp explains how progressives are paving the way for a conservative resurgence.

Just a few months ago, in the wake of Bill de Blasio’s election to New York City mayor, it seemed as though progressivism was on an unstoppable course to pull the Democratic party leftward.

The movement’s seen real ups and downs over the past few decades. After dominating in the 70s, President Reagan effectively supplanted progressivism with populism in the80s. President Clinton then moved the Democratic Party to the center in the 90s, with legislation like welfare reform and the Defense of Marriage Act. And thanks to an overzealous pro-choice movement that supported partial-birth abortion, President Bush was “this close” to putting a final nail in the coffin. Then, of course, came the wars.

After a brief resurgence in 2008, President Obama, for myriad reasons, has since been a wet blanket for progressives who thought that, after Bush, the country would lurch left in unprecedented ways. But for one, his election itself slowed the gears, zapping the momentum out of groups like Code Pink and MoveOn.org, which all but vanished during Obama’s first term, seemingly forgetting their opposition to interventionist policies that trounced on civil liberties at home and abroad.

According to a Politico story titled “The Rich Strike Back,” there’s reason to believe that Democrats may be recalibrating their midterm messages. But with the party clearly unfocused, and confused over how to embrace progressivism, while still acknowledging the realities of the political climate, it’s hard to imagine the discord resolving any time soon.

As progressivism goes from mere rhetoric to action, voters from every economic stratum are rejecting it. I, for one, am rooting them on.....snip~

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/townhallmagazine/2014/05/19/progressives-will-save-the-gop-n1837013

This comes at a good time. Showing just how much the Democrats are in disarray. Months ago I talked about that divide coming down with the Demos. The re-emergence of the Blue Dog Democrat. Fiscally conservative. Their back and like Cupp says.....all around, the progressives are being rejected. Nothing can be finer then the Progs stuck playing sideliner. What say ye?

 

[MMC]

Indeed this news just keeps getting better as it reads along.

.....and with BO care being the gift that keeps on giving. We can be seeing some major money shift away from the Progressives. Hillary begging and Wall Street knows now it can stick it Right back to the Democrats this coming election cycle and 2016.


Obama floated a budget plan to raise taxes on Wall Street, but, as Politico put it, “no one took it seriously.” And, “just days later, the President was raising money at the home of one of the wealthiest private equity executives in New York.”

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo also dashed de Blasio’s hopes of raising taxes on the wealthy, who oppose his fight against charter schools.

Even Hillary Clinton, the Democrats’ presumptive presidential nominee, seems to know where her bread is buttered, giving two big-money speeches to Goldman Sachs last year alone, in which she promised the group she had no plans to bash the banks.

Progressivism is, in essence, dividing the Democratic Party down the middle.

More importantly, the progressive economic messages Democrats hope will drive voters to the polls in 2014 have fallen flat. After summarily ignoring income inequality (and watching it actually worsen) for five years, Obama launched a new election-year push to solve the gap by, wait for it, raising the minimum wage. Comically, Democrats followed his charge. ...... snip~

 

[Navy Pride]

S.E. Cupp explains how progressives are paving the way for a conservative resurgence.

Just a few months ago, in the wake of Bill de Blasio’s election to New York City mayor, it seemed as though progressivism was on an unstoppable course to pull the Democratic party leftward.

The movement’s seen real ups and downs over the past few decades. After dominating in the 70s, President Reagan effectively supplanted progressivism with populism in the80s. President Clinton then moved the Democratic Party to the center in the 90s, with legislation like welfare reform and the Defense of Marriage Act. And thanks to an overzealous pro-choice movement that supported partial-birth abortion, President Bush was “this close” to putting a final nail in the coffin. Then, of course, came the wars.

After a brief resurgence in 2008, President Obama, for myriad reasons, has since been a wet blanket for progressives who thought that, after Bush, the country would lurch left in unprecedented ways. But for one, his election itself slowed the gears, zapping the momentum out of groups like Code Pink and MoveOn.org, which all but vanished during Obama’s first term, seemingly forgetting their opposition to interventionist policies that trounced on civil liberties at home and abroad.

According to a Politico story titled “The Rich Strike Back,” there’s reason to believe that Democrats may be recalibrating their midterm messages. But with the party clearly unfocused, and confused over how to embrace progressivism, while still acknowledging the realities of the political climate, it’s hard to imagine the discord resolving any time soon.

As progressivism goes from mere rhetoric to action, voters from every economic stratum are rejecting it. I, for one, am rooting them on.....snip~

Progressives Will Save the GOP - Townhall Magazine

This comes at a good time. Showing just how much the Democrats are in disarray. Months ago I talked about that divide coming down with the Demos. The re-emergence of the Blue Dog Democrat. Fiscally conservative. Their back and like Cupp says.....all around, the progressives are being rejected. Nothing can be finer then the Progs stuck playing sideliner. What say ye?

Indeed my friend 2014 should be a massacure and Hillary is very beatable in 2016.

 

[MMC]

Indeed my friend 2014 should be a massacure and Hillary is very beatable in 2016.

Heya NP. :2wave: Indeed.....but more importantly its the Progressives and their Ideologies not being accepted. They have put the Democrats into a real tough position. Which while this may be a good start.....it needs to be amped up to do all that can be done to play them against the Blue Dogs. While forcing Progs to go after their own. All due to their Separate so called and self Professed Elitism.

 

[MMC]

Some more insight to the Progressives and what they are facing. Yeah.....and it is understandable why the Left wouldn't want it getting all around. But then with an election around. It's not going to be possible to prevent it from showing and being reported on.


Frustrated progressives start to look beyond Obama.....

"We are seeing a split in the Democratic Party between self-described progressives and the old guard," Brown University political scientist Wendy Schiller told CNN. "If you dig deep, you see that these are old dividing lines based on economics, region, and culture."

Policy ramifications aside, more liberal Democrats worry that a return to Clinton-era centrism will deflate the party's base. More moderate Democrats fear a full embrace of Warren- and de Blasio-style liberalism will herald a return to the party's McGovern-Mondale-Dukakis era political wilderness.

Whichever side wins this fight, one thing is already clear: Six years after flocking to the banner of Obama's "hope and change" candidacy, a lot of progressives are disappointed in the current Democratic administration.

"It's a mixed legacy," said Adam Green, head of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, a Washington-based liberal group. "In some areas, like ending two wars, (Obama's) presidency has represented a return to some sanity. But on the core issue of corporate power and a government that fights for the little guy, this administration so far has had a lot of missed opportunities.".....snip~

Frustrated progressives start to look beyond Obama - CNN.com


Also, its not a given the Progs will back Hillary who will have more of that Blue Dog base, despite some of their differences. Such as Goldman Sachs.

 

[tres borrachos]

Policy ramifications aside, more liberal Democrats worry that a return to Clinton-era centrism will deflate the party's base. More moderate Democrats fear a full embrace of Warren- and de Blasio-style liberalism will herald a return to the party's McGovern-Mondale-Dukakis era political wilderness..

Wait....when did they leave that era?

 

[MMC]

Wait....when did they leave that era?

One, when they dumped Hillary for BO :lol: ..... Now, with them knowing she will go with the blue dogs and the Saudis and overseas interests, hence their high hopes on Warren.

 

[tres borrachos]

One, when they dumped Hillary for BO :lol: ..... Now, with them knowing she will go with the blue dogs and the Saudis and overseas interests, hence their high hopes on Warren.

Elizabeth Warren, if elected, would make Barack Obama look like a success.

 

[MMC]

Elizabeth Warren, if elected, would make Barack Obama look like a success.

Well, and they know de Blasio doesn't have the Star struck power to hypnotize.....the unsuspecting.

.....:mrgreen:

 

[eohrnberger]

Heya NP. :2wave: Indeed.....but more importantly its the Progressives and their Ideologies not being accepted. They have put the Democrats into a real tough position. Which while this may be a good start.....it needs to be amped up to do all that can be done to play them against the Blue Dogs. While forcing Progs to go after their own. All due to their Separate so called and self Professed Elitism.

Well, it's not really the progressive's fault that their ideologies are being soundly defeated in the marketplace of ideas. It's just that they make little common sense and therefore don't connect with the majority of the electorate.

Of course this isn't really new information, and was self-identified quite some time ago.

Liberalism has spent the better part of the past century attempting to prove that it could competently and responsibly extend the state into new reaches of American life.

Reversing the initial impressions of government ineptitude won’t be so easy.

Obamacare Failure is a Threat to Liberalism | New Republic

By what right do liberal / progressives have to shove their ideology onto the rest of the people? To push 'the state into new reaches of American life'? Push this onto people who don't want it?

As if government was anything BUT inept. Since when? We have examples on a nearly daily basis.

This is all rooted in the ideology of the progressives.

“provide the same sense of hierarchy and *order long associated with European statism”

“psychological mechanism” allows progressive reformers to turn their own failings “into moral judgments against society.”
Two central tropes, neither of which is actually true:

“two central tropes of liberalism: a sense of superiority and a claim on the future.”

liberalism’s hunger for “moral deregulation” with its appetite for overregulating everything else.

And yes, we are in this mess because of liberalism / progressivism, who’s social experiments continually fail.
From the dumbing down of education to extreme environmentalism, from anti-family poverty programs to free-speech curbs on campuses, the excesses of our times are laid out like the pieces of a puzzle. It is a clear-eyed vision of how we got to this troubled place.

The Revolt Against the Masses reveals liberalism's elitist roots | New York Post

Right here, 2 reasons why not to like or support liberalism / progressivism. So it’s really liberals / progressives psychological hang up, and not with everyone else.

 

[MMC]

Well, it's not really the progressive's fault that their ideologies are being soundly defeated in the marketplace of ideas. It's just that they make little common sense and therefore don't connect with the majority of the electorate.

Of course this isn't really new information, and was self-identified quite some time ago.

Obamacare Failure is a Threat to Liberalism | New Republic

By what right do liberal / progressives have to shove their ideology onto the rest of the people? To push 'the state into new reaches of American life'? Push this onto people who don't want it?

As if government was anything BUT inept. Since when? We have examples on a nearly daily basis.

This is all rooted in the ideology of the progressives.
The Revolt Against the Masses reveals liberalism's elitist roots | New York Post

Right here, 2 reasons why not to like or support liberalism / progressivism. So it’s really liberals / progressives psychological hang up, and not with everyone else.

Heya Eorhn......throw that in with their tactic of going with the income inequality, and that minimum wage issue.....the failings of BO care and himself with their issues. Plus trying to spend their way out of debt.


Even other Democrats see their math just doesn't add up.

 

[eohrnberger]

Heya Eorhn......throw that in with their tactic of going with the income inequality, and that minimum wage issue.....the failings of BO care and himself with their issues. Plus trying to spend their way out of debt.


Even other Democrats see their math just doesn't add up.

Yup. Pretty much so.

 

[soot]

Only in America would one group of ideologues celebrate the fact, not that their ideas are meeting wider acceptance and favorability, but simply that popular opinion has swung to conclude that their position, at least for the time being, sucks a little bit less than the other guys'.

That's not a "slam" on conservatives, because I've seen Liberals do it too.

It's more a commentary on how y'all are both stuck in some twisted death spiral race to the bottom and actually seem to think that a temporary shift in opinion, which happens pretty much on cue, is representative of something more than the fact that you take turns sucking.

 

[Perotista]

S.E. Cupp explains how progressives are paving the way for a conservative resurgence.

Just a few months ago, in the wake of Bill de Blasio’s election to New York City mayor, it seemed as though progressivism was on an unstoppable course to pull the Democratic party leftward.

The movement’s seen real ups and downs over the past few decades. After dominating in the 70s, President Reagan effectively supplanted progressivism with populism in the80s. President Clinton then moved the Democratic Party to the center in the 90s, with legislation like welfare reform and the Defense of Marriage Act. And thanks to an overzealous pro-choice movement that supported partial-birth abortion, President Bush was “this close” to putting a final nail in the coffin. Then, of course, came the wars.

After a brief resurgence in 2008, President Obama, for myriad reasons, has since been a wet blanket for progressives who thought that, after Bush, the country would lurch left in unprecedented ways. But for one, his election itself slowed the gears, zapping the momentum out of groups like Code Pink and MoveOn.org, which all but vanished during Obama’s first term, seemingly forgetting their opposition to interventionist policies that trounced on civil liberties at home and abroad.

According to a Politico story titled “The Rich Strike Back,” there’s reason to believe that Democrats may be recalibrating their midterm messages. But with the party clearly unfocused, and confused over how to embrace progressivism, while still acknowledging the realities of the political climate, it’s hard to imagine the discord resolving any time soon.

As progressivism goes from mere rhetoric to action, voters from every economic stratum are rejecting it. I, for one, am rooting them on.....snip~

Progressives Will Save the GOP - Townhall Magazine

This comes at a good time. Showing just how much the Democrats are in disarray. Months ago I talked about that divide coming down with the Demos. The re-emergence of the Blue Dog Democrat. Fiscally conservative. Their back and like Cupp says.....all around, the progressives are being rejected. Nothing can be finer then the Progs stuck playing sideliner. What say ye?

Interesting, I can tell you what side tracked President Obama from being a truly progressive president, the ACA. During his first two years, he could have had and done anything he wanted. But he and his fellow Democrats decided on the ACA and put everything else on hold. That included work on the economy and jobs, immigration reform and a slew of other things. What the Democrats and President Obama didn't see happening was the election of 2010. The majority of Americans were against the passage of the ACA, they told their representatives and senators so, but those representatives and senators refused to listen to them. So they took that wrath out on the Democrats in November of 2010 to the tune of 63 house seats and 6 senate seats.

This and the Republican control of the house has stopped President Obama cold with any progressive ideas he had prior to the ACA. Without the ACA, the Democrats would still have control of the House, there is no doubt about that in my mind. This nation would have been moved a heck of a lot further left than it has. The only reason the Republicans are the factor they have been since January of 2013 is because of the ACA. Without the ACA, the GOP might have become pretty irrelevant.

How all of this plays out for November this year and for the election of 2016 remains to be seen. But I seen a list of 20 issues put together by ABC in a poll, the American people sided with the Democrats on about 15 of those issues and the Republicans on only 5. One of those five was the ACA, the economy, jobs, foreign policy, and one more rounded out the five. I think normally having only 5 out of 20 issues on your side would doom you in any election. But the American People rate 1. Economy, 2. Jobs 3. Healthcare in that order as to the issues most important to them and they side with the Republicans on them. Foreign Policy was way down the list at number 15 or something like that and for the life of me I can't remember the fifth issue the people sided with the Republicans on.

 

[Fearandloathing]

Well, it's not really the progressive's fault that their ideologies are being soundly defeated in the marketplace of ideas. It's just that they make little common sense and therefore don't connect with the majority of the electorate.

Of course this isn't really new information, and was self-identified quite some time ago.

Obamacare Failure is a Threat to Liberalism | New Republic

By what right do liberal / progressives have to shove their ideology onto the rest of the people? To push 'the state into new reaches of American life'? Push this onto people who don't want it?

As if government was anything BUT inept. Since when? We have examples on a nearly daily basis.

This is all rooted in the ideology of the progressives.
The Revolt Against the Masses reveals liberalism's elitist roots | New York Post

Right here, 2 reasons why not to like or support liberalism / progressivism. So it’s really liberals / progressives psychological hang up, and not with everyone else.

There you have it...the pendulum swings.

KIt has been a fact here in Socialist Canada for several decades....the progressives for one reason or another become popular, not just the "social conscience" and take power in a Provincial government and two years later the electorate are thinking murderous thoughts.

and so it is with the pendulum the progressives thought was Obama, he is not, and so the rug unravels; America is seeing the bankruptcy of those ideas through the lens of an inept, purely political president.

harsh teachings, indeed.

However, having been through this a few times, I would caution anyone in thinking the progressives are not a threat, for like rabid hounds they will defend the turf they have "won" at any cost; their followers fear driven and in panic over the kind of end-of-time rhetoric these in-bred troglodytes are capable of....

America, look North, everything bad about this country was a socialist idea..
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Everything good has been conservative correction. There is a lesson there.

 

[MMC]

Interesting, I can tell you what side tracked President Obama from being a truly progressive president, the ACA. During his first two years, he could have had and done anything he wanted. But he and his fellow Democrats decided on the ACA and put everything else on hold. That included work on the economy and jobs, immigration reform and a slew of other things. What the Democrats and President Obama didn't see happening was the election of 2010. The majority of Americans were against the passage of the ACA, they told their representatives and senators so, but those representatives and senators refused to listen to them. So they took that wrath out on the Democrats in November of 2010 to the tune of 63 house seats and 6 senate seats.

This and the Republican control of the house has stopped President Obama cold with any progressive ideas he had prior to the ACA. Without the ACA, the Democrats would still have control of the House, there is no doubt about that in my mind. This nation would have been moved a heck of a lot further left than it has. The only reason the Republicans are the factor they have been since January of 2013 is because of the ACA. Without the ACA, the GOP might have become pretty irrelevant.

How all of this plays out for November this year and for the election of 2016 remains to be seen. But I seen a list of 20 issues put together by ABC in a poll, the American people sided with the Democrats on about 15 of those issues and the Republicans on only 5. One of those five was the ACA, the economy, jobs, foreign policy, and one more rounded out the five. I think normally having only 5 out of 20 issues on your side would doom you in any election. But the American People rate 1. Economy, 2. Jobs 3. Healthcare in that order as to the issues most important to them and they side with the Republicans on them. Foreign Policy was way down the list at number 15 or something like that and for the life of me I can't remember the fifth issue the people sided with the Republicans on.

Voter ID. I think was the 5th.

 

[Perotista]

Voter ID. I think was the 5th.

It could have been. Normally I save polls like that. For some reason I failed to do so.

 

[Perotista]

Voter ID. I think was the 5th.

I do have this from Gallup, but it was not the one I was talking about from ABC. Still it basically says the same thing in a much condense way.

Republicans Have Edge on Top Election Issue: the Economy