George_Washington said:
Whew, Tech! I can't even begin to say what a big dumb, ignorant sack of B.S. that all is.
Amazing. That's what dumb, ignorant people who defend the inferior curriculae say.
Shakespere is one of the greatest writers that ever lived-he was a genius in his field. If you don't see the value and benefits of literature to our society than I seriously doubt if you will make an effective history teacher.
This is irrelevant. Shakespear is ont the "greatest" writer, and he's not even one of the greatest writers. That's a subjective value statement. Literature isn't based on fact. Literature is ont based on logical analysis. Literature is not empirical. It's nonsense. It teaches inferior ways of thinking. The entirey "literary" analysis method is diametrically opposed to rational science.
You don't need an entire class on Literature; this is a disgrace. We waste 3-4 years on this bullshat subject, yet half of our population is mathematically and scientifically ignorant. THis is unacceptable.
Literature classes are a waste of time. They do not
You're a history major-correct? I could just as easily say your degree is worthless, based on your logic, and that you should be majoring in math, engineering, or one of the sciences.
History isn't worth as much as engineering, math, and the sciences or logic. You're right. However, I am becomming a History teacher because it's pragmatic. History has some value in that you need to know what happened in your past; it's a lessons subject. Learn it, so you don't do it again. Memorizing every trivial detail is, quite frankly, worthless. History only has value in terms of civics and theme.
Or maybe you're just jealous of the writers, film makers, and people in the arts that make millions more per year than you'll never see as a history teacher.
Appeal to Motive Fallacy. No. That's not why. I could care less how much they make. Wasting time on frivolous subjects in highschool to the detriment of other, more important subjects, is a farse. It shouldn't be tolerated.
I do think we should stress math more in this country but your attitude to education is just moronic.
No, it's actually not moronic, but thanks for your worthless imput.
Not everybody can do math for a living-if that was the case, our society would crumble.
Strawman fallacy. I never said all jobs must be math related in society. I said to get rid of the worthless highschool overfocus on literature and stupid ****, like sports. That does not lead to the conclusion: bann it from society. You are free to go into arts in higher education: state education should focus on the core subjects that are pragmatic and utilitarian for human civilization's progress: Logic, Math, Science, English (English is not to be confused with Literature), and a utilitarian language
Your dislike for creativity is also just as stupid, I guess you forgot that it was Einstein who said that creativity is more important than knowledge.
Appeal to Authority Fallacy. I could care less what Einstein's personal opinion was. He wasn't talking about Art at all, rather creative thinking/critical thinking in science and logic. There's nothing wrong with creative thinking; spending four years studying Moby Dick and the symbolism of a white sperm whale, however, is pointless.
Uh huh, thanks. Considering you're a history major, I've probably taken more math courses at the college level than you have and even I can see the benefit of the arts.
ZZZZZZ don't really give a crap what you've done. This statement is irrelevant appeal to your own authority. The fact that you "might" have taken more math and that you think art is "fun" and "good" does not make it useful for highschool teaching.
Sports are a waste of time? Can you get anymore stupid or is this something you work on every day?
You really must have had oxygen deprivation as a child.
Sports teachers people to work in groups, leadership, and the value of competition.
They also:
A. Waste time for school and study
B. Create dangerous levels of competition
C. Siphon off time that could be better put into academics
All that "Teamwork" and "competition" nonsense you whine about can be easily accomplished without resorting to bouncing a basketball around a court untill 5 pm, when the kid belongs at home studying the scientific method.
I guess again you're just jealous of the athletes that turn professional and make millions of dollars.
Appeal to Motive Fallacy. Irrelevant. This hasn't to do with what constitutes a proper education.
Sports is a worthwhile discipline and is something that is an aspect of our democratic, free enterprise system.
Bullshit. Sports are unnecessary and harmful academically on a highschool level. You have schools where less than 40% of the students could pass the highschool assessments, yet most were learning very well how to prepare for cross country nonsense or "basketball." That's unacceptable. Obviously, both together do not work.
Sports have been around since the ancient Romans. Professional sports create many jobs and bring in revenue for cities and communities.
This is a combination of logical fallacies:
1. Appeal to Tradition. I don't give a **** what the romans did. It's irrelevant that it has always been "liked" or "traditional."
2. Strawman. I never said entertainment in society is worthless. If you want to entertain, go to a drama/acting college. Take up sports or drama in college where you pay for it yourself with your own money at a private institution. You are trying to turn my statements into something I didn't say: sports and entertainment should be driven from society completely. Way to go, dumb-ass.
If we don't have sports in highschool than we'll never produce professional athletes.
Bullshit. Colleges are the number 1 arena for sports. Most students waste their time in highschool sports; the vast majority of students will never become athletes, but they will always remain shitty scholars because of the time they wasted on sports in the vain hopes of achieving fame.
I'm sorry if you have no athletic ability and can't dribble a basketball to save your life but that doesn't mean you have to penalize those that can.
Ad Hominem Fallacy: You don't know jack-**** about me. I did archery in highschool.
Furthermore, everyone benefits from physical exercise. Or do you want us to be a society full of obese 600 lbs. people?
Wow..whoda thought? Another Fallacy: This time, it's Mr. False Dichotomy! You're artifically separating sports and exercize and artifically exercize from no exercize. I never said no exercize would be administered. Learn:
A. Get exercize at home
B. Get exercize in PE. YOu can get exercize from something other than sports. Gym should be completely aerobic exercize or weightlifting. Having competitive sports is unnecessary. Secondly, I am not referring to sports in gym.
Christ, we're already practically there as it is. And if you really believe physical fitness doesn't matter than fine, keep believing that when you die of a heart attack at 35.
Don't STrawman my post, dumbf.uck. I never said there would be no physical exercize.
But you're right about one thing; our school system does need improvements. The fact that they produced you is testimony to that.
Perhaps if you addressed the argument and cut out half of your logical inadequancies, you might have a point. Half your post is either a direct lie or a strawman, and the other half is a combination of other illogicalities. Stop lying.