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Carville: Dems need stronger narrative to win
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/07/434637e79a469
By Elizabeth Gibson
October 07, 2005
The problem with Democrat campaign speeches is “litany,” and they need more narrative like Winnie the Pooh stories, political consultant and pundit James Carville said.
At a speech sponsored by the Northwestern College Democrats Thursday evening, Carville told the audience that Democratic candidates can’t succeed by shouting out to every group in a crowd. Instead candidates should tell stories with the three elements of any good story — setup, conflict and resolution
The usurers have given me an epiphany, since I have no power except the vote, I just do not know what to do with it.DeeJayH said:seems reasonable to me
Your key phrase is "have the candidates offer real solutions to the problem" and that is the core problem of the Democrats.DivineComedy said:Write a Winnie the Pooh tragedy that reflects the above scenario and have the candidates offer real solutions to the problem, then the best solutions will get my vote.
in my opinion the reason bush won was because Kerry offered but one solution to problems: " go to my website"Kandahar said:I agree that the Dems need some ideas, but George Bush has proven that you can win an election with no ideas other than "stay the course." So that can't be their ONLY problem.
Kandahar said:1. End corporate welfare
2. End pork-barrel spending
3. Withdraw from Iraq
4. Protect abortion rights and civil liberties
5. Support civil unions
6. Electoral reform
7. Balance the budget
DeeJayH said:government can not force electoral reform
the people must demand new parties to counter the 2 party system that has led to the folly we currently find ourselves in
DeeJayH said:We will leave Iraq when the job is done
to do anything else ,would be far worse than anything we have been accused of, up until now
what do you want, mob ruleKandahar said:2) Congress and the electoral college are not representative of the will of the people,
no such thing as a non partisan, unless you let grade-schoolers or the ignorant do itKandahar said:I think the necessary steps are changing the way districts are drawn by assigning the task to a non-partisan group
I see no benefits to this whatsoeverKandahar said:allowing people to rank the candidates rather than just voting for one
sad world you live inKandahar said:"When the job is done" implies that we are somehow making progress toward a clearly defined goal, when we are not. I've accepted it as a given that we WILL lose in Iraq and we WILL cut and run at some point
DeeJayH said:what do you want, mob rule
Pure Democracy, 1 man 1 vote period is a flawed way to conduct the govt
DeeJayH said:no such thing as a non partisan, unless you let grade-schoolers or the ignorant do it
DeeJayH said:I see no benefits to this whatsoever
DeeJayH said:sad world you live in
we are succeeding in Iraq
and we will probably be drawing down the troops there during end of next summer or fall.
DeeJayH said:if you listened to more than the MSM you might realize there is alot more good going on than is reported.
Ask any soldier who served
The media has painted Iraq as an abissimal failure
when it is not
DeeJayH said:it will go down, in my opinion, as a war fought, as best as it could be, given the conditions. As in no battlefront, no uniforms on the enemy....
DeeJayH said:so far as the clearly defined goal, do you watch any news?
do you listen to the president, the Def Sec or anybody
when Iraq is up and running and able to care for itself we will be out
that means creating a new government.
than maybe you can clarify your positionKandahar said:There are ways of having a representative democracy without mob rule. We do have a Constitution last I checked.
the country is not made of rectanglesKandahar said:districts should be roughly rectangular, consecutive
Kandahar said:Today people often don't vote for their first choice candidate if they feel it's a lost cause.
Kandahar said:If we do draw down troops in Iraq, it will be because George Bush has finally realized that we're fighting a losing game.
Kandahar said:The insurgency is stronger than it has ever been before, the constitution draft basically shuns the Sunnis, and the Shiite/Kurd coalition is on the verge of collapse. How is this anything other than an abysmal failure?
if thats what those idiots choose so be it. We cannot dictate their form of governmentKandahar said:That's not a clearly defined goal. If Iraq establishes an Islamic Republic similar to Iran's, will you consider it an accomplishment?
if that is the case, as it is now, we will stil be there. so your question is rather absurdkandahar said:If the insurgency dies down but remains a hotbed for international terrorists, will you consider it an accomplishment?
those representing the Iraqi peoplekandahar said:Who decides when Iraq is "up and running and able to care for itself"?
The Democratic party is dying. It is liberalism that is killing them. Not all Democrats have suffered this outbreak. There are still some good Democrats left. Example; When Americans are laying dead in our cities due to an attack from our terrorist enemies whether it be a nuclear or biological weapon, the mind infected with liberalism will still not understand the purpose in why we fight terror. Liberalism only seeks to attack, divide and dehumanize America for their own political gain.Diogenes said:The Dems appear to be intellectually bankrupt, and badly in need of a visionary.
And thus; the hijack...Lieberman, Bayh, Lautenberg, Inouye, & Dorgan have been marginalized by, Pelosi, Reid, Kennedy, Dean, & Feinstein...not to mention the "lower realm" of the heirarchy consisting of Jackson, Sharpton, and the "bipartisan:roll:" organizations of the ACLU, NOW, and the NAACPETCPWDTLU...If I were a Democrat, my first question would be, "Do I really want these people representing me?"...:shock:ThePhoenix said:The Democratic party is dying. It is liberalism that is killing them. Not all Democrats have suffered this outbreak. There are still some good Democrats left. Example; When Americans are laying dead in our cities due to an attack from our terrorist enemies whether it be a nuclear or biological weapon, the mind infected with liberalism will still not understand the purpose in why we fight terror. Liberalism only seeks to attack, divide and dehumanize America for their own political gain.
It just so happens that the Democratic party for the most part has succumbed to this plague known as liberalism....
Agreed, and this is a Bad Thing for all of us. IMO we need competition in the marketplace of ideas to keep the nation on its toes. The Dems can't win, because their primary system has been hijacked by fringe elements and a Good Democrat (I agree there are still a few around) can't win the nomination. This allows the Republicans too much slack, with the result that they lose focus and try to be all things to all people; and inevitably they do it badly.ThePhoenix said:The Democratic party is dying. It is liberalism that is killing them. Not all Democrats have suffered this outbreak. There are still some good Democrats left. Example; When Americans are laying dead in our cities due to an attack from our terrorist enemies whether it be a nuclear or biological weapon, the mind infected with liberalism will still not understand the purpose in why we fight terror. Liberalism only seeks to attack, divide and dehumanize America for their own political gain.
It just so happens that the Democratic party for the most part has succumbed to this plague known as liberalism....
Oh, this is rich. Excuse me while I pull my pant legs up. I don't want to get them dirty. Imagine an occupation army coming into the US and shooting our citizens, bombing our hospitals, raiding our homes at 3 in the morning, using our churches as barracks for their troops, restricting our movements so much you go thru 5 check points to get to the market, everytime you look at them they point a gun at you, they take control of our natural resources and then, DeeJayH......are you listening, and then, after 2-3 years of this bullshit were going to say, "Oh yeah, you guys were right. You know what's best for us. Thank you for destroying our infrastructure. Were soooooo grateful." Is this what you would call a pleasure? Talk about conservative pyscho-babble.Originally Posted by DeeJayH:
those representing the Iraqi people
we are in Iraq at the pleasure of the Iraqi government
when they are ready, they will thank us and tell us to go on our way to syria or iran
Democrats haven't done anything to be respected for. Republicans are just plain liars and criminals.Originally posted by cnredd:
Any Democrat who still respects themselves should be begging for Gephardt's return...
It is the liberals that have nothing to to be respected for they are killing the Democrats, Everyone is guilty of lying at one time or another and to classify a group of people just because they are Republican as criminals is slander in my book and that would make it a crime in itself. And the Green party as of yet and I suspect never, has and will never have anything of value to offer America. To be honest, I even forgot about there existence.Billo_Really said:Democrats haven't done anything to be respected for. Republicans are just plain liars and criminals.
Let me see, how many Republicans are being investigated? How many people have died from the lies they told in their bullshit war on terror?Originally Posted by ThePhoenix:
It is the liberals that have nothing to to be respected for they are killing the Democrats, Everyone is guilty of lying at one time or another and to classify a group of people just because they are Republican as criminals is slander in my book and that would make it a crime in itself. And the Green party as of yet and I suspect never, has and will never have anything of value to offer America. To be honest, I even forgot about there existence.
Billo_Really said:Oh, this is rich. Excuse me while I pull my pant legs up. I don't want to get them dirty. Imagine an occupation army coming into the US and shooting our citizens, bombing our hospitals, raiding our homes at 3 in the morning, using our churches as barracks for their troops, restricting our movements so much you go thru 5 check points to get to the market, everytime you look at them they point a gun at you, they take control of our natural resources and then, DeeJayH......are you listening, and then, after 2-3 years of this bullshit were going to say, "Oh yeah, you guys were right. You know what's best for us. Thank you for destroying our infrastructure. Were soooooo grateful." Is this what you would call a pleasure? Talk about conservative pyscho-babble.
Billo_Really said:Let me see, how many Republicans are being investigated?
So you think O.J. was innocent?Originally posted by DeeJayH:
get back to me when you have convictions
Speaking of super power, I here we have got Iraqi electrical power up to 12 hours a day! Super.Originally posted by DeeJayH:
and yet so many Iraqis greeted us with smiles, cheers and appreciation for liberating them
if we were under the heel of a brutal dictator i do believe we would appreciate UK or Australia coming to the rescue
but since we happen to be the superpower this will not happen for a long time, if ever
Billo_Really said:So you think O.J. was innocent?
Billo_Really said:Speaking of super power, I here we have got Iraqi electrical power up to 12 hours a day! Super
Why thank you.Originally posted by DeeJayH:
nice technique.
10s all around
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