iclimb1998
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The problem is that religion can't coexist with growth as a species and rational thinking. ANY religion.
The problem is that religion can't coexist with growth as a species and rational thinking. ANY religion.
so how did humanity evolve to the point it has when taking into consideration that religion has been the one uniting factor of all human cultures?
so how did humanity evolve to the point it has when taking into consideration that religion has been the one uniting factor of all human cultures?
You may want to check your facts. Countries that live under Sharia law rarely if ever execute people for having premarital sex.
For adultery yes, and even this is dwindling down. Pakistan recently removed adultery from the list of capital crimes. I guess, according to you they are considered heretics?
The problem is that religion can't coexist with growth as a species and rational thinking. ANY religion.
Extremist radical Muslims, including our own president,
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so how did Ancient Egypt, one of the most religious societies in history manage to exist for as long as it did, and be as powerful as it was?A) We evolved in spite of religion, we evolved when we shelved religion for secularism.
It is a terrific unifying factor, look at the Crusades, you had people from european countries that had been warring for centuries put aside their differences for a common cause, certainly it's not a universal unifying factor, but name one thing that is.B) If there's one thing religion is not it's a unifying factor.
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Amidst all the talk of “ground 0″ as secularly holy, and not to be defiled by an Islamic educational center four blocks away, ever notice that with government in charge, it is still just a hole in the ground all these years later? Sell the hole to the highest bidders, and let them build some productive enterprises there. Reject Palin, Gingrich, Boehner, Foxman, and other merchants of hate. We don’t need a blowback memorial.
so how did Ancient Egypt, one of the most religious societies in history manage to exist for as long as it did, and be as powerful as it was?
It is a terrific unifying factor, look at the Crusades,
you had people from european countries that had been warring for centuries put aside their differences for a common cause,
certainly it's not a universal unifying factor, but name one thing that is.
That's a pretty bold statement considering some of the folks on your side (e.g., communists).
for it's time, it was.It was powerful at its height, but it was, also, tyrannical. You consider ancient Egypt to be an evolved civilization?
Yes look at the Crusades, you had Western Christians killing Byzantine Christines, Muslims and Christians fighting a huge war, Christians persecuting Jews etc. Ya religion was really unifying. :roll:
You use a religious war to say that religion is a unifying factor.
Secular democracy, secular democracies do not go to war with one another IE Democratic Peace Theory. Capitalism is another unifying factor IE the Golden Arches Peace Theory of Conflict Resolution.
In The Lexus and the Olive Tree, Thomas L. Friedman coins the "Golden Arches Theory of Conflict Prevention" - that no two countries that both have a McDonald's franchise would be likely to fight a war. The 2008 South Ossetia war, however, is a counterexample.
Lew Rockwell makes an interesting comment about how there is still nothing there at ground zero.
Government Hole « LewRockwell.com Blog
Lew Rockwell makes an interesting comment about how there is still nothing there at ground zero.
Government Hole « LewRockwell.com Blog
for it's time, it was.
exactly, it unified the western christians.
excellent, now show me a secular democracy that has lasted longer than a religious monarchy.
and i hadn't heard the golden arches peace theory, so i looked it up on wikipedia, and found this.
That is the very link I provided.
He supports sharia his only opposition is on the strict penal codes which means that he supports criminalizing homosexuality, apostasy, etc and supports sexist inheritence policies, and everything else sharia entails. He wants a sharia compliant U.S. or in his words: "ensure that their secular laws are not in conflict with the Quran or the Hadith."
He said that the U.S. was an accessory to the 9-11 attacks.
He said that the U.S. is an accessory to 9-11 IE he blamed the U.S. for 9-11.
He blamed the U.S. for 9-11. He said that U.S. actions made us an accessory to the crime. This is a definitive clear cut case of blaming the victim.
He has said or refused to say everything I claimed, and supports everything I claimed he supported.
OMG, really?! We must stop them! There is a Muslim terrorist organization that is trying to build a Mosque in Manhattan simply to spite Americans and as a symbol of their conquest over America! They have even infiltrated the Whitehouse by putting one of their own in office! Haven't you seen his middle name?! Isn't it obvious he's a terrorist Muslim?! Our country is getting taken over by Muslims and by communist and by socialist and by a black Hitler all at the same time!! The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
Have you ever sat down and talked to a Muslim? Do you also think that all Jews have a little bag of fake gold on their neck as a decoy for the real bag of gold they have in their sock?
Yes, I know it is the link you provided. But you seem to misread his comments very badly.
Did you happen to catch the Daily Show last night?
Jon Stewart - Daily Show | Ground Zero Mosque | Glenn Beck | Mediaite
Seemsbeck says the same thing. he must be a radical muslm, right?
For everything you quote, you totally misread, misstate, and misunderstand. In other words, you have it all completely wrong.
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