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Power tripping judge threatens student on field trip with time in jail

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DETROIT (WXYZ) — A Detroit nonprofit hosted a field trip at the 36th District Court so students could learn about the legal system, when a sleeping teenager during the visit ended up in a jail uniform, handcuffs and in front of Judge Kenneth King because of her “attitude” inside his courtroom.

On Tuesday, children part of a three-week program with the nonprofit The Greening of Detroit were taken to 36th District Court for a field trip. Other field trips in the program include kayaking and watching birds. However, this was an opportunity for students to watch a real trial play out and speak to a judge.

Before the defense and prosecution even entered the court, King addressed the students and answered their questions. He then noticed a 16-year-old girl dozing off.

Being tired is "attitude" now?
 
From the videos I've seen you seem to have a section of the police and judges who seem to think anything but grovelling obedience by the public is grounds for arrest.

It's simply amazing how quickly they can go from a simple interaction with someone nonviolent and simply not instantly doing what they order them to (even if the order is completely illegal) to arrest for a made up offense.

I'm not saying it's lots of cops just that there seems to be zero training in deescalation or just basic empathy.
 
This was a field trip?

I guess I understand the "scared straight" idea but handcuffs and a jail uniform is WAY out of line. Teaching people that the justice system is capable of absurd abuse isn't really getting people to respect the system.
 
A sixteen year old's attitude might lean towards disrespectful because they may feel that the system seems stacked against them. This encounter should clear that right up.
 
Young people haven't learned that in order to get respect, you have to give respect.
 
Young people haven't learned that in order to get respect, you have to give respect.
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Young people haven't learned that in order to get respect, you have to give respect.

Hi, worked in schools. Know a thing or two about kids here. I show respect to my students by letting them sleep and establishing rules about sleeping in my rooms. Doesn't do anyone any good to have cranky kids in school. I get respect because I uphold my rules about sleep. Students give respect and learn respect. What this judge did was terrible, but he deserves to learn that for the courts to be respected, they must give respect to the people.
 



Being tired is "attitude" now?

The story did not have enough details.
I'll take the judge's word for it that the girl had an attitude problem however it would have been helpful if he had shared a bit more to flesh out his reasons.
For instance, if the girl had gone into chambers and told the judge she didn't care if he is a judge, and she can sleep when she wants to, okay then.

If that was the case, I side WITH the judge, too many kids ARE being raised to believe laws and respect for the courts do not apply to them.
And that is how so many young people wind up in trouble, lack of respect. Not just respect for law enforcement and the courts, but overall respect for SOCIETY.
You can't even visit a restaurant without the possibility of a group of idiots starting a violent brawl over missing ketchup.

Entitled people are at epidemic levels now and it's not getting better, it's getting worse.
Teachers don't get the necessary respect, cops don't, judges don't, medical professionals don't, even a damn mailman deserves a certain modicum of respect.
They are providing essential services and too many people make a letter carrier's life dangerous these days.
 
Hi, worked in schools. Know a thing or two about kids here. I show respect to my students by letting them sleep and establishing rules about sleeping in my rooms. Doesn't do anyone any good to have cranky kids in school. I get respect because I uphold my rules about sleep. Students give respect and learn respect. What this judge did was terrible, but he deserves to learn that for the courts to be respected, they must give respect to the people.
He's not your buddy or pal, the guy's a judge. If there's ever a time to show respect it's when you're in a court of law. Believe or not, that use to be common sense.
 
The story did not have enough details.
I'll take the judge's word for it that the girl had an attitude problem however it would have been helpful if he had shared a bit more to flesh out his reasons.
For instance, if the girl had gone into chambers and told the judge she didn't care if he is a judge, and she can sleep when she wants to, okay then.

If that was the case, I side WITH the judge, too many kids ARE being raised to believe laws and respect for the courts do not apply to them.
And that is how so many young people wind up in trouble, lack of respect. Not just respect for law enforcement and the courts, but overall respect for SOCIETY.
You can't even visit a restaurant without the possibility of a group of idiots starting a violent brawl over missing ketchup.

Entitled people are at epidemic levels now and it's not getting better, it's getting worse.
Teachers don't get the necessary respect, cops don't, judges don't, medical professionals don't, even a damn mailman deserves a certain modicum of respect.
They are providing essential services and too many people make a letter carrier's life dangerous these days.
I'm glad you're not a judge
 
He's not your buddy or pal, the guy's a judge. If there's ever a time to show respect it's when you're in a court of law. Believe or not, that use to be common sense.

Correct. He has to adhere to high moral standards when he is in charge of a courtroom. So when he breaks those moral standards he needs to be called out on it.
 
Correct. He has to adhere to high moral standards when he is in charge of a courtroom. So when he breaks those moral standards he needs to be called out on it.
High moral standard?! His primary role is to keep order in the courtroom so the judicial process can operate.
 
High moral standard?! His primary role is to keep order in the courtroom so the judicial process can operate.

And what is a judicial process if not the way in which the state dictates morality? If anyone wants justice in a courtroom there has to a high moral standard judge adheres to. Once the judge breaks it, there is no justice. There wasn't a judicial process at the time. Just a student dozing off before the judicial process even started.
 
He's not your buddy or pal, the guy's a judge. If there's ever a time to show respect it's when you're in a court of law. Believe or not, that use to be common sense.

These were kids on a field trip.
They weren't on trial or part of the justice system and being tired is not a crime last time I checked.
It's like common sense has been completely destroyed.
 
These were kids on a field trip.
They weren't on trial or part of the justice system and being tired is not a crime last time I checked.
It's like common sense has been completely destroyed.
Most know how to behave themselves when they go to a church. They should also know how to behave in a courtroom. Even the spectators need to behave themselves.
 



Being tired is "attitude" now?
He doesn't know it yet, but his career as a judge is over.

It will not be long before the parents of that child file a multimillion-dollar lawsuit against the city and state.

The judge will be removed from the bench over it and may even be disbarred.



What he did was completely and totally inappropriate.
 
These were kids on a field trip.
They weren't on trial or part of the justice system and being tired is not a crime last time I checked.
It's like common sense has been completely destroyed.
This will be part of the reason that judge gets booted off the bench and why the City of Detroit will pay out a large settlement. Thanks to this judge, the city will be paying for counseling for a very long time.
 
Most know how to behave themselves when they go to a church. They should also know how to behave in a courtroom. Even the spectators need to behave themselves.

The person was tired, is that a crime now?

It was a bloody field trip, get a grip.
 
Hi, worked in schools. Know a thing or two about kids here. I show respect to my students by letting them sleep and establishing rules about sleeping in my rooms. Doesn't do anyone any good to have cranky kids in school. I get respect because I uphold my rules about sleep. Students give respect and learn respect. What this judge did was terrible, but he deserves to learn that for the courts to be respected, they must give respect to the people.

They say that teens need a shitload of sleep...and almost none get it.

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The Civil Rights Lawyer on YouTube is confirming the judge has been sued.
 
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