Post your prediction: When will Biden mandate the COVID vaccine for welfare recipients?

[Gaius46]

When will Biden advocate mandates for the anti-vaxxer idiots who are enthusiastically prolonging the disease, and doing their utmost to stifle the best efforts of the medical community to put a stop to it? That's the question you should be asking. Mandates for Morons can't happen soon enough; I'm sick to death of the irresponsible and dangerous idiots.

If he had an ounce of sack, he'd mandate it for everyone. Period.

He'd save thousands of lives, and earn a little respect from those who realize what a useless wet noodle he is.

Never because he can’t.

 

[Logophile]

Maybe lay off the am radio and FOX for a while.
I would strongly recommend that.

I don't watch any news. I research, something you may find too cumbersome, but I would "strongly recommend" it. Thanks!!

 

[noonereal]

Its political attack after political attack.

The only thing Trump supporters and Republicans care about is politically attacking Democrats and Biden.

The health of their fellow Americans? They don’t give a shit.

No doubt, it is a cult of hate and resentment.

 

[Noodlegawd]

I was just thinking a similar thought.

Why the indirect mandate? Why not cut out the middle man and set a deadline for everyone to be vaccinated or face criminal penalty?

That way it applies to everyone and no one can claim confusion.

Because he doesn't want to anger his base (the unemployed and illegal immigrants), while simultaneously energizing the opposition.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

I research, something you may find too cumbersome

LMAO.

I would HARDLY consider perusing the conspiracy theory websites "research".....but you do you fella!

 

[Logophile]

LMAO.

I would HARDLY consider perusing the conspiracy theory websites "research".....but you do you fella!

Conspiracy theories?? Not even close. You just don't know anything other than what's fed you by mainstream outlets. You should try reading some serious journals, explore recent studies rather than parking yourself in front of CNN and regurgitating everything it says and calling it expertise. Thanks!!

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Conspiracy theories?? Not even close. You just don't know anything other than what's fed you by mainstream outlets. You should try reading some serious journals, explore recent studies rather than parking yourself in front of CNN and regurgitating everything it says and calling it expertise. Thanks!!

HOWLING.....LMMFAO!!!

 

[Logophile]

HOWLING.....LMMFAO!!!

Awww, cartoon faces. I should have known that's all you could muster in the end. And you think that's so clever. Oh well. Thanks!!

 

[Lursa]

I think it is a great idea.

Why isn't Joe Biden doing it?

Is "people on welfare" a demographic that is under-vaccinated? Maybe they have a high rate of vaccination. Do you have the sources to back up a need for such a mandate? Please provide.

 

[seymourflops]

Is "people on welfare" a demographic that is under-vaccinated? Maybe they have a high rate of vaccination. Do you have the sources to back up a need for such a mandate? Please provide.

"under-vaccinated?"

Is there any group in the U.S. that is not "under-vaccinated?"

Did Biden have evidence that "workers in companies with 100 plus employees" are under-vaccinated?

Or is he just trying to add to the overall percent of Americans vaccinated?

 

[snakestretcher]

Never because he can’t.

Yes, but there is a long history of health-related mandates in the US. I'm sure if the responsible states mandated vaccination others would follow suit. Of course there would be outliers who, for purely political reasons (like DeSantis and Abbott for example), would not.

 

[snakestretcher]

The vaccination zealots are the ones prolonging it. They are the spreaders. They are the "dangerous idiots." They are setting themselves up for a huge problem, much greater than they dare imagine. They carry covid with mitigated symptoms, infect others who then have mitigated symptoms who then continue the global spread. Their solace and ego mania is predicated on a limited efficacy vaccine that they will have to repeatedly subject themselves to until it eventually becomes useless. Until then, they are completely dependent and beholden to Big P. There's a new Delta variant. It's spreading across the UK through the vaccinated as well as the unvaccinated. But the worst problem is that eventually two or three mutations down the road covid will overcome the repeated vaccines, all thanks to those unmasked, careless vaccinated "idiots" that cavalierly waltzed on to airplanes and took lorries and cozied up to bars with relatively few symptoms. When the major covid hits, there will be no refuge for them at all nor anybody else. All thanks to the "vax idiots." Thanks!!

Dear god, could you post anything more ignorant?

 

[snakestretcher]

That is the correct noun, "zealot."

They are so cocksure that they know everything.

They worship at the shrine of "science" until they disagree with "science."

We are now being told that "fully vaccinated" may soon mean having gotten the booster shot.

A few days ago, I respectfully started a thread that referred to an article that questioned some of the info about the vaccines. I admitted that I had NO idea as to its accuracy. But since it was on Google News, I innocently thought that some members (& guests) might want to check it out.

Well, you would have thought that I had committed a capital crime. Some posters went crazy that I had had the temerity to even mention an article that might not agree with all the "official" announcements regarding the vaccines.

Every time I turn on the TV, there are commercials for all kinds of medicine for every disease. And every commercial has a disclaimer that the medicine in question COULD cause serious or even fatal side effects for some people.

But to suggest that these new vaccines could possibly have similar side effects is considered a capital crime by these zealots.

Sometimes I get the feeling that some zealots (especially those in government positions) unconsciously want this pandemic to continue. It gives them a sense of power that they have never had before.

Nonsense; nobody has suggested that vaccines have no side-effects. They are already well known from the results of clinical trials involving hundreds of thousands of volunteers, globally. Furthermore every medication you are prescribed or buy over the counter contains a leaflet of cautions, caveats and contraindications. If you were really paranoid you would never use drugs again, given that death is a 'side-effect' of many.

 

[Logophile]

Dear god, could you post anything more ignorant?

Not sure. You're so much better at it. Thanks!!

 

[snakestretcher]

Not sure. You're so much better at it. Thanks!!

Strange, then, that my posts don't appear to attract the same degree of opprobrium that yours do. Did you not notice?

 

[Logophile]

Strange, then, that my posts don't appear to attract the same degree of opprobrium that yours do. Did you not notice?

Yes. But I don't post here to win a popularity contest, SS. Thanks!!

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

I think you know my prediction.

Isn't "Welfare" a responsibility of the individual STATES?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Its political attack after political attack.

The only thing Trump supporters and Republicans care about is politically attacking Democrats and Biden.

The health of their fellow Americans? They don’t give a shit.

Now that is simply NOT true.

If protecting the health of all Americans would ensure that the "Republicans" (whatever that means) would get and stay elected with a filibuster proof trifecta, then the "Republicans" would be all for it.

 

[Lursa]

"under-vaccinated?"

Is there any group in the U.S. that is not "under-vaccinated?"

Did Biden have evidence that "workers in companies with 100 plus employees" are under-vaccinated?

Or is he just trying to add to the overall percent of Americans vaccinated?

Please answer my questions before asking more of your own. That's how discussions work.

 

[seymourflops]

Please answer my questions before asking more of your own. That's how discussions work.

Fine.

Medicaid beneficiaries less likely to get COVID-19 shots - Roll Call

The lag worries experts because the nation’s poorest individuals have historically faced worse health outcomes.

www.rollcall.com

Ohio GOP Gov. Mike DeWine announced in May that COVID-19 vaccine uptake among Medicaid enrollees was 22 percent, compared with 45 percent of Ohioans overall — despite recent headlines about new incentives to get a shot, including a statewide $1 million lottery.

“Obviously, that’s not a number we’re happy with,” said DeWine. “We must get these numbers up. It’s simply unacceptable.”

Decline in Receipt of Vaccines by Medicare Beneficiaries ...

This report describes a decline in receipt of vaccines ...

www.cdc.gov

What is added by this report?

During the first week after the national COVID-19 emergency declaration in March 2020, weekly vaccination rates among Medicare beneficiaries aged ≥65 years declined by 25%–62%, compared with the corresponding period in 2019. By mid-April, vaccination rates in this group reached nadirs of 70%–89% below 2019 rates. Rates partially recovered gradually during May–July 2020.

If the answer for working people is unfunded mandates, why is the answer for welfare dolees, incentives but no mandates?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Fine.

Medicaid beneficiaries less likely to get COVID-19 shots - Roll Call

The lag worries experts because the nation’s poorest individuals have historically faced worse health outcomes.

www.rollcall.com

Ohio GOP Gov. Mike DeWine announced in May that COVID-19 vaccine uptake among Medicaid enrollees was 22 percent, compared with 45 percent of Ohioans overall — despite recent headlines about new incentives to get a shot, including a statewide $1 million lottery.

“Obviously, that’s not a number we’re happy with,” said DeWine. “We must get these numbers up. It’s simply unacceptable.”

Decline in Receipt of Vaccines by Medicare Beneficiaries ...

This report describes a decline in receipt of vaccines ...

www.cdc.gov

What is added by this report?

During the first week after the national COVID-19 emergency declaration in March 2020, weekly vaccination rates among Medicare beneficiaries aged ≥65 years declined by 25%–62%, compared with the corresponding period in 2019. By mid-April, vaccination rates in this group reached nadirs of 70%–89% below 2019 rates. Rates partially recovered gradually during May–July 2020.

If the answer for working people is unfunded mandates, why is the answer for welfare dolees, incentives but no mandates?

When you get the vaccination rates up into the 85% range

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it's not anything unusual to see the RATE of new vaccinations declining - after all, there are fewer people in the cohort that you are looking at left to vaccinate.

But you knew that already - didn't you?

BTW, how IS your state doing?

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Is it still 26th best (14 behind California) in terms of "Cases per Million" and 34th best (17 behind California) in terms of "Deaths per Million"?

 

[beancounter]

oh, for crying out loud, just get vaccinated already...

 

[seymourflops]

When you get the vaccination rates up into the 85% range

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it's not anything unusual to see the RATE of new vaccinations declining - after all, there are fewer people in the cohort that you are looking at left to vaccinate.

But you knew that already - didn't you?

Of course I did.

But since welfare dolees are under-vaccinated, shouldn't Biden be trying to make the rate increase?

BTW, how IS your state doing?

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Is it still 26th best (14 behind California) in terms of "Cases per Million" and 34th best (17 behind California) in terms of "Deaths per Million"?

I don't know.

I'm vaccinated and likely already immune due to infection prior to being vaccinated, so I'm super immune.

I wonder if the reason Team Biden won't mandate vaccinations for welfare recipients is that they want to thin the rolls of existing doleees so they can use the money for more illegal aliens/future Dem voters.

 

[Lursa]

Fine.

Medicaid beneficiaries less likely to get COVID-19 shots - Roll Call

The lag worries experts because the nation’s poorest individuals have historically faced worse health outcomes.

www.rollcall.com

Ohio GOP Gov. Mike DeWine announced in May that COVID-19 vaccine uptake among Medicaid enrollees was 22 percent, compared with 45 percent of Ohioans overall — despite recent headlines about new incentives to get a shot, including a statewide $1 million lottery.

“Obviously, that’s not a number we’re happy with,” said DeWine. “We must get these numbers up. It’s simply unacceptable.”

Decline in Receipt of Vaccines by Medicare Beneficiaries ...

This report describes a decline in receipt of vaccines ...

www.cdc.gov

What is added by this report?

During the first week after the national COVID-19 emergency declaration in March 2020, weekly vaccination rates among Medicare beneficiaries aged ≥65 years declined by 25%–62%, compared with the corresponding period in 2019. By mid-April, vaccination rates in this group reached nadirs of 70%–89% below 2019 rates. Rates partially recovered gradually during May–July 2020.

If the answer for working people is unfunded mandates, why is the answer for welfare dolees, incentives but no mandates?

What association did you make with medicaid and welfare?

Also I read this as a descriptor in the CDC link:

"Among Medicare enrollees in the study sample, an average (across all vaccines studied) of 85% were White, 7% were Black, 4% were Other racial and ethnic groups, and 2% each were Asian or Hispanic."

 

[seymourflops]

What association did you make with medicaid and welfare?

Also I read this as a descriptor in the CDC link:

"Among Medicare enrollees in the study sample, an average (across all vaccines studied) of 85% were White, 7% were Black, 4% were Other racial and ethnic groups, and 2% each were Asian or Hispanic."

What does their race and ethnicities have to do with their vaccination rates?

Medicaid is to welfare what employer provided insurance is to employment and Medicare is to Social Security.

Just answer the question.