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I know you dont careI don't care how you interpret it.
When it comes to sex men need to take responsibility for themselves, stop relying on women to do it right up until conception happens and then suddenly demanding a say.
post-conception technically.the topic is post birth opt out no matter how many times you ignore it or how many moronic strawmen you post lol
really quite simple
Actually, the topic was about walking away from responsibility post conception. That option already exists for men. It's literally just walking away. They may have to move somewhere they have very little connection to, perhaps change their name, change info, change their life, but they so have that option.the topic is post birth opt out no matter how many times you ignore it or how many moronic strawmen you post lol
really quite simple
Hard to get a abortion in texasMan...
post-conception technically.
And men don’t get one.
Tough pill to swallow, I know, but it is what it is.
correct thats the topicpost-conception technically.
correct hence why its unequal and some want that changedAnd men don’t get one.
And I'm saying let's not. This isn't something that you are going to get support for, especially when people who may be on the fence realize that they would be supporting more of other people's children with their taxes.For the fifth time....let's change that
And women can always shoot the fatherActually, the topic was about walking away from responsibility post conception. That option already exists for men. It's literally just walking away. They may have to move somewhere they have very little connection to, perhaps change their name, change info, change their life, but they so have that option.
Lots of people did not support gay marriage for a long time eitherAnd I'm saying let's not. This isn't something that you are going to get support for, especially when people who may be on the fence realize that they would be supporting more of other people's children with their taxes.
nope its about making opt out equal and not discriminatory in one direction.Actually, the topic was about walking away from responsibility post conception.
You're not doing that though. You are doing nothing really here. Heck the main issue with the proposal of a contract prior to sex is that very few women would agree to it. And a man withholding sex or a relationship from a woman is not going to be some big deal for most women, especially when most men wouldn't do it.No. It's about encouraging responsible choices for both parties
That is best for chikdren and families
Those are completely different things.Lots of people did not support gay marriage for a long time either
You said it, I'm not shocked that you don't know what you were talking about...I don't even know your point
It still wouldn't be equal. It would only be a different kind of unequal. That's it.nope its about making opt out equal and not discriminatory in one direction.
the OP literally mentions both opt out, and points out the fact how its unequal and discimitniory
The analogy is perfectThose are completely different things.
Okay dokey pokeyYou said it, I'm not shocked that you don't know what you were talking about...
It isn't a ridiculous option at all. It is actually what happens a lot when you are talking situations like those presented here.And women can always shoot the father
As long as we are talking about ridiculous options
Why do men get a second go round at consent?correct thats the topic
correct hence why its unequal and some want that changed
good job catching up with reality, now your posts wont look so off-topic and stupid
If someone has no clue what an analogy is. And is lacking critical thinking skills to actually assess those two situations.The analogy is perfect
has proven based on the actual topic of legality of opting out post birth it would beIt still wouldn't be equal. It would only be a different kind of unequal. That's it.
Women who want an abortion can fly to EuropeIt isn't a ridiculous option at all. It is actually what happens a lot when you are talking situations like those presented here.
Your opinion is noted and dismissedIf someone has no clue what an analogy is. And is lacking critical thinking skills to actually assess those two situations.
why do women?Why do men get a second go round at consent?
they consented to potentially making a baby when they received ejaculationThey consented to potentially making a baby when they ejacualted.
If you do that why not have mandatory sterilization of the male that participated in the pregnancy? You don't honestly believe that all males that father children participate in raising the child do you?I should of been more clear and said restrict abortions to only being available when it's a medical imperative
It hasn't though. Legally, the opt out options are still unequal. And the opt in options are also unequal, because they are legally unequal due to how our laws work, what they take into consideration when it comes to them being in place, the reasons they are in place. Biology is part of that.has proven based on the actual topic of legality of opting out post birth it would be
I think it’s fine if you see abortion as a solution. But if you’re not both exactly on the same page then I can’t advise it. If you use the pullout method, it doesn’t work and you find out after the fact that the woman is a holly roller, welp…happy fatherhood!
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