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The mail in ballots used do not have any watermark nor any other protection against being duplicated. Anyone can photocopy as many ballots at they want. So is this a possible election outcome?

Donald J. Trump: 215,194,284,103
Joe Biden: 234,584,298,984

Biden with 234 billion votes to Trump's 215 billion votes.
 

No, have you any idea how much sending a billion letters by mail cost?
 

Wouldn't that be a hoot! I bet democrats would still deny any voter fraud.
 

Why do you think Trump is so incompetent that he can not make voting by mail secure?
 

No, that's not a possible outcome.

Why is it that every right winger thinks zero election security measures exist?
 

It's almost like you have no idea how mail in ballots are cast... Do we need to review again... Each ballot is placed in an envelope with the voters identification information AND signature on the outside of the envelope. The envelopes are each verified BEFORE the envelope is opened. If they open it and find two ballots, it's not recorded. If there is one ballot, it is processed as a cast ballot. There are very few voting precincts that have the exact same ballot since they usually also have city, county and state positions up for election as well as bond measures, etc. The complexities of duplicating the correct ballots for each precinct, forging correct voter identification information including a signature on every ballot cast makes it very, very difficult to cast enough ballots correctly to influence an election.
 
Integrityrespec said:
Wouldn't that be a hoot! I bet democrats would still deny any voter fraud.
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Democrats have never denied "any voter fraud." Voter fraud is very rare, it is not zero. You still don't understand the difference in 2020? That's on you.
 




Good try Tovarich, but no luck!

Voter Fraud is a con that Trump is trying to push on people, especially the dumb ones.
 

Fraud on that scale would certainly be discovered and brought to justice long before it could affect the election.

Which is why voter fraud is near non-existant; to do any good it would have to scale to a point that it would expose itself.
 
Irwin Corey said:
Fraud on that scale would certainly be discovered and brought to justice long before it could affect the election.

Which is why voter fraud is near non-existant; to do any good it would have to scale to a point that it would expose itself.
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In the primaries, mostly on the Democratic side, hundreds of thousands of mail in ballots were thrown away. There is nothing to prevent mass scale mail in ballot fraud - nothing.
 
joko104 said:
In the primaries, mostly on the Democratic side, hundreds of thousands of mail in ballots were thrown away. There is nothing to prevent mass scale mail in ballot fraud - nothing.
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He was talking hundreds of millions, but don't be surprised if and when whomever through away ballots are found out.
 
Mycroft said:
Oh...another one who wants Trump to be king.

:doh
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We expect leadership from the white house.

We aren't getting it. No plan for securing vote by mail. No plan for healthcare. No plan for police reform. No plan for COVID support. Nothing.
 
Deuce said:
We expect leadership from the white house.

We aren't getting it. No plan for securing vote by mail. ~snipped the lying~
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Please...don't go all hyperbole on me. And don't lie.

It's not up to Trump to trot out a "plan for securing vote by mail". That's the job of the states who DECIDE to conduct vote by mail.

If you want Trump to tell the states how to run their elections, sorry...you are going to have to make him the king first.
 

Really? The feds can't even come up with recommendations? Are they too stupid?
 
Deuce said:
Really? The feds can't even come up with recommendations? Are they too stupid?
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The states don't need recommendations from the fed. They can figure it out on their own...and if that's too difficult, they should either ask another state who's made a system that works (like Colorado) how to do it or they should just put the idea aside for when they CAN figure it out.
 

Um, since the discussion is "securing vote by mail", it will have to at least be something the USPS and states would need to consult each other on.
 

Ahh, so you admit that vote by mail can work just fine. Excellent, I'm glad we agree.
 
Deuce said:
Ahh, so you admit that vote by mail can work just fine. Excellent, I'm glad we agree.
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Of course it can. I have been voting by mail here in Colorado for seven years. It works great.

But then, we've didn't try to cobble together some inferior system out of our absentee system in less than ten months. We did it right.

(and we didn't need any feds to tell us how to do it)
 
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