Portrait of a RINO

[TurtleDude]

so if you already knew that the NRA wasn't a "pro gun politcal force" when JFK was alive then why bring it up?

it was pro gun back then, and I was merely playing the same game others did with DDE.

 

[Linc]

It never has been NIMBY. its your party that wanted to scape goat gun owners and NRA members to hide the fact that DEMS were weak on inner city criminals. And when the NRA objected to the DEMOCRATS scapegoating gun owners, the DEMOCRATS started pushing laws designed to harass NRA members.

Every problem in the USA is due to Democrats dontchaknow, says one of the titular leaders of the GOP who puts crosshairs on DEM Congressfolks like Gabby Giffords.

As Teddy Roosevelt said and NIMBY always says, what will Americans think of the corrupt to the core Gilded wing of the GOP in a hundred years ?

 

[TurtleDude]

Every problem in the USA is due to Democrats dontchaknow, says one of the titular leaders of the GOP who puts crosshairs on DEM Congressfolks like Gabby Giffords.

As Teddy Roosevelt said and NIMBY always says, what will Americans think of the corrupt to the core Gilded wing of the GOP in a hundred years ?

Look NIMBY-I get it that Democrats don't like the NRA's massive support of mostly GOP candidates. But its YOUR party that turned the NRA into such a power

 

[Linc]

I wanted to see if you actually knew anything about our presidents.

THE NRA was forced to become a pro gun political force when the POST JFK DEMOCRAT party adopted gun control as a facade to pretend the DEMOCRATS were trying to do something about black street crime-a charge NIXON used effectively to bash the party in power in 1965 or so

Amongst many of his faults, Nixon bought into the racist Southern Strategy perfected by the skkkumbag Lee Atwater--GOPricks can run from his dirty deeds done dirt cheap but his stain will forever live with Republiekkkants .

 

[TurtleDude]

Amongst many of his faults, Nixon bought into the racist Southern Strategy perfected by the skkkumbag Lee Atwater--GOPricks can run from his dirty deeds done dirt cheap but his stain will forever live with Republiekkkants .

in other words, you don't like the fact it was effective. Black criminals were something the Democrat party coddled and this opened the door to nixon-who was a gun banner BTW

 

[dimensionallava]

it was pro gun back then, and I was merely playing the same game others did with DDE.

what game? when has anyone EVER used the term LINO?

 

[TurtleDude]

what game? when has anyone EVER used the term LINO?

they call them DINOs

 

[Linc]

Look NIMBY-I get it that Democrats don't like the NRA's massive support of mostly GOP candidates. But its YOUR party that turned the NRA into such a power

Meaningless moronic nonsense when you can't address my points.

And when I do bring up targeted Martial Law, you Libertarians hide behind the skirt of the 4th amendment.

Republies don't want an end to inner-city crime--it's such a useful cudgel whenever there is another mass murder of my children .

 

[TurtleDude]

Meaningless moronic nonsense when you can't address my points.

And when I do bring up targeted Martial Law, you Libertarians hide behind the skirt of the 4th amendment.

Republies don't want an end to inner-city crime--it's such a useful cudgel whenever there is another mass murder of my children .

most of your points are so far off the topic of this thread, I don't respond to them since they aren't germane

 

[Linc]

in other words, you don't like the fact it was effective. Black criminals were something the Democrat party coddled and this opened the door to nixon-who was a gun banner BTW

Which means Nixon was the perfecto Republican politician--a blatant irrational lying steaming pile of dung (BIL SPOD) .

 

[dimensionallava]

they call them DINOs

I have never heard that term used in my life in fact i just googled it and the first thing that came up was an article describing the history of the word RINO

with this written near the bottom

Why not DINO?

But there's one lingering question: Why aren't DINOs as big a phenomenon? It might be because other terms for heterodox Democrats have always been popular (think Blue Dog Democrats and Yellow Dog Democrats), or it could be because someone's "progressive" nature has become the watchword for their authenticity.

A brief history of the term RINO, from Roosevelt to Boehner - Vox


your just pulling an "i am rubber, you are glue defense" aren't you?

 

[TurtleDude]

Which means Nixon was the perfecto Republican politician--a blatant irrational lying steaming pile of dung (BIL SPOD) .

He was a gun banner. I wasn't old enough to vote then. He was gone when I was 14
maybe if JFK hadn't have stolen the election, nixon wouldn't have been such a paranoid asshole in later life

 

[TurtleDude]

I have never heard that term used in my life in fact i just googled it and the first thing that came up was an article describing the history of the word RINO

with this written near the bottom

A brief history of the term RINO, from Roosevelt to Boehner - Vox


your just pulling an "i am rubber, you are glue defense" aren't you?

its probably because there is no advantage to pretending to be a DEM when you aren't

 

[Linc]

most of your points are so far off the topic of this thread, I don't respond to them since they aren't germane

The Club for Growth is really pounding Trump out here in Iowa--he's down in the latest Iowa polls .

 

[TurtleDude]

The Club for Growth is really pounding Trump out here in Iowa--he's down in the latest Iowa polls .

Trump makes me puke. if he runs against hillary, I am gonna take a barf bag to the polls

Later NIMBY, have fun teaching this fall

 

[Linc]

its probably because there is no advantage to pretending to be a DEM when you aren't

How about those RIPOs I once spoke of--Republicans In Posting Only--who have been too chicken-**** to admit they're a Republican since before the 2006 election .

 

[vesper]

After two pages of political speak, no one has been able to define clearly what a RINO actually is or how one becomes one. Typical. :roll:

Evening ModerateGOP. When I hear the term RINO, I think of folks like Charlie Crist, Jim Jeffords, Michael Bloomberg. Folks who ran on the Republican ticket but their views are not much different than their opposition that they could easily switch parties like the three above mentioned did and feel very comfortable in doing so. Another term to describe a RINO is a cafeteria conservative. There may be just one or two things they hold a conservative view on and on everything else hold a more liberal/progressive view outside the norm of the Republican party such as support for the growth of big federal bureaucracies, increased spending, tax increases, crony capitalism etc.

Currently, those Republicans who tend to be more progressive/liberal are not in favor with the majority of Republican voters for they gave the Republicans the majority in Congress yet still are not seeing any results for it. It as if the party leadership are so much like their opposition that the only difference at times is Republicans just think they can do the same thing better than the Democrats. It is why you keep seeing the number of independents grow because they are fed up with the lack of difference between the parties on issues important to them. The voters keep seeing Obama pretty much get what he wants while the budget/spending continues to increase and the debt is out of control. They see many of them in bed with the Chamber of Commerce which pushes crony capitalism while undermining our immigration laws to name a few things. It certainly has frustrated the primary voters and that is why you see outsiders doing so well in the early polls.

 

[Linc]

He was a gun banner. I wasn't old enough to vote then. He was gone when I was 14
maybe if JFK hadn't have stolen the election, nixon wouldn't have been such a paranoid asshole in later life

It was Daley and Giancana who stole that election--I wonder if they'll ever find those ballot boxes in Lake Michigan--maybe when they find Jimmy Hoffa--fascinating crime city Chicago was in the 1920s led by the crooked GOP mayor and GOP governor--half of our governors have gone to jail or been indicted since Lennington Small .

 

[Alban]

Nahhh is an ugly smear campaign against the Founders to roll them in with the crop of angry old white men we have running around crying and lamenting like spoiled grade schoolers.

Course it is a bit of a ahhhh whitewash to forget the other folks who worked, fought and died to create this grand and glorious nation. Oh and while we are at it, this country wasn't empty- there were roughly 30 million REAL native Americans here before the first European stepped ashore.

Si, amigo- it is a WONDERFUL thing... I'd opine the delusion is with the angry old white guys who think only Northern European stock can grasp the concepts that built this nation. Any war memorial in recent times should show even the most deluded many non-Euro whites many other races and ethnicity thought this country was worth fighting for and many died... eace

Let's wait and see. Personally I'm not looking forward to the entire country looking like a balkanized third world ****hole.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Everybody please take serious consideration in your answer.

It has come to my attention that despite being a registered republican. I am not one. How could this be? Well apparently I am not conservative enough for some members here... Yet those same members do not even show the slightest bit of passion I do about my party. It appears those who try to undermine others in the party and wish nothing but ill will towards it or hope to change it are considered actual republicans. For some reason that is not considered being a RINO, or as the name implies Republican in Name Only. Further it seems to be quite easy to become a RINO because all one has to do is piss some conservative off.

So to prevent this confusion and to make RINO seem less pejorative. I think and ask the community here for some help on this, that we should outline what it means to be an establishment in either party. For some reason this happens less on the Democrat side despite its members being just as chaotically flip floppy.

Care for my opinion?

Republican comes from the word "republic."

Our system relies on electing people to congress and a president, and they are expected to do what is best for this nation as a whole. Any "republican" that forgets this, and is willing to spend other people's money for votes, or expect money to be spent that is outside of the intent of the tenth amendment, is a RINO. Not a real republican.

 

[Lord of Planar]

If Eisenhower was alive right now lots of GOPers would call him a RINO.

Are today's situations the same?

 

[Lord of Planar]

After two pages of political speak, no one has been able to define clearly what a RINO actually is or how one becomes one. Typical. :roll:

Well, a RINO isn't any particular thing, except having too many traits that are not republican.

Question in my opinion should be, how may is too many?

We all have at least one trait that doesn't strictly follow what we claim our alignment to be, and a person is a fool to expect perfection.

 

[Lord of Planar]

He was a gun banner. I wasn't old enough to vote then. He was gone when I was 14
maybe if JFK hadn't have stolen the election, nixon wouldn't have been such a paranoid asshole in later life

LOL...

JFK didn't steel the election. He was just more charismatic, and looked good on TV. TV was new in most housholds at the time, and made a difference from just radio speeches.

JFK was probable a far better president too.