[FONT="]“He told me, ‘Juan Carlos, that you are gay does not matter. God made you like this and loves you like this and I don’t care. The pope loves you like this. You have to be happy with who you are,’” Cruz told Spanish newspaper El País.[/FONT]
This man follows Christ's example better than most Christians I know[h=1]Pope Tells Gay Man: ‘God Made You Like This and Loves You Like This’[/h]
The more I hear about the Pope, the better I like him, and I'm not even Catholic.
[h=1]Pope Tells Gay Man: ‘God Made You Like This and Loves You Like This’[/h]
The more I hear about the Pope, the better I like him, and I'm not even Catholic.
While G_d would indeed love his creation, it was incumbent upon his creation to overcome the burden G_d gave them and not become an abomination.
:lamoAre you concerned that God will strike you down should you spell out the word god?
So basically, let's get this straight. God creates someone, and since they are gay, he obviously created them gay. However, he considers homosexuality an abomination, and thus while he created someone that was only attracted emotionally and physically to their own sex, he wants them spend a lifetime repressing that attraction, and thus forgoing the happiness of finding someone that love and are attracted to, so they will not be an abomination before him. Thus their cross to bear as it were.
This sort of god you have created for yourself is pretty sadistic. I guess that is what happens when one gets their morality from 2500 year old, largely illiterate, very tribal, bronze age desert tribes.
[h=1]Pope Tells Gay Man: ‘God Made You Like This and Loves You Like This’[/h]
The more I hear about the Pope, the better I like him, and I'm not even Catholic.
While G_d would indeed love his creation, it was incumbent upon his creation to overcome the burden G_d gave them and not become an abomination.
[h=1]Pope Tells Gay Man: ‘God Made You Like This and Loves You Like This’[/h]
The more I hear about the Pope, the better I like him, and I'm not even Catholic.
The real abominations are Christians who use God's name to justify hatred, violence, and oppression of their neighbors.
Is that what you think? That's nice.
That’s what any decent human being thinks.
Besides your being wrong; That's nice.
Besides you profaning Christianity with your despicable hatred; you and your ilk are running out of room to promote such bigotries.
[h=1]Pope Tells Gay Man: ‘God Made You Like This and Loves You Like This’[/h]
The more I hear about the Pope, the better I like him, and I'm not even Catholic.
Besides you profaning Christianity with your despicable hatred; you and your ilk are running out of room to promote such bigotries.
With that rule of thumb, God loves pedophiles and serial killers, too...:roll:
I don't know what that Pope was drinking, but he's as far out in left field as someone in his position could possibly be. He's also apparently Biblically ignorant.
Let's review what God and the Bible actually say about homosexual sin:
Leviticus 18:22 - "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."
Leviticus 20:13 - "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
Romans 1:26-27 - "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."
1 Timothy 1:8-10 - “But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully, knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine…”
Jude 7 – “In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.”
And for those who would argue that Jesus never spoke out about gay sex, there's the following:
Jesus is God. As God, Jesus is the one who gave Moses the Leviticus law against gay sexual relations to begin with; and he’s the one who inspires all Scripture (2 Timothy 3:16), including prohibitions against gay sexual relations in Romans 1:26-27 and I Corinthians 6:9-10, etc. It’s also worth noting that Jesus didn’t mention wife beating or other sins such as pedophilia either, and there are not many folks who would argue he approved of those behaviors. So Jesus was under no obligation to reiterate the moral laws against homosexual sin that already existed, unless there were clarifications to be made.
There's no approval of gay sex or gay marriage in either the Old or New Testaments.
Finally, the Pope should be warning actively gay men and women to repent and turn from their sin, or perish (Luke 13:3).
So basically, let's get this straight. God creates someone, and since they are gay, he obviously created them gay. However, he considers homosexuality an abomination, and thus while he created someone that was only attracted emotionally and physically to their own sex, he wants them spend a lifetime repressing that attraction, and thus forgoing the happiness of finding someone that love and are attracted to, so they will not be an abomination before him. Thus their cross to bear as it were.
Doesn't the Pope get to change doctrine? I mean it's been done before such as when the church changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday, or when they decided that marriage would only be recognized by them if it happened under them.The irony of the Pope being weak on doctrine. Well, not actually a surprise as the entire premise of the institution of the Pope is not supported.
Since you brought up Leviticus, are you wearing mixed fabrics?I don't know what that Pope was drinking, but he's as far out in left field as someone in his position could possibly be. He's also apparently Biblically ignorant.
Let's review what God and the Bible actually say about homosexual sin:
Leviticus 18:22 - "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."
Leviticus 20:13 - "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
Romans 1:26-27 - "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."
1 Timothy 1:8-10 - “But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully, knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine…”
Jude 7 – “In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.”
And for those who would argue that Jesus never spoke out about gay sex, there's the following:
Jesus is God. As God, Jesus is the one who gave Moses the Leviticus law against gay sexual relations to begin with; and he’s the one who inspires all Scripture (2 Timothy 3:16), including prohibitions against gay sexual relations in Romans 1:26-27 and I Corinthians 6:9-10, etc. It’s also worth noting that Jesus didn’t mention wife beating or other sins such as pedophilia either, and there are not many folks who would argue he approved of those behaviors. So Jesus was under no obligation to reiterate the moral laws against homosexual sin that already existed, unless there were clarifications to be made.
There's no approval of gay sex or gay marriage in either the Old or New Testaments.
Finally, the Pope should be warning actively gay men and women to repent and turn from their sin, or perish (Luke 13:3).
There is a difference between warning you neighbor and trying to force them by law to behave as your religion supposedly states.What is despicable is knowing what the truth of Bible is and yet not warning your neighbor, for in doing so, you may save both yourself and those who listen to you...1 Timothy 4:16
Since you brought up Leviticus, are you wearing mixed fabrics?
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