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POLL: Majority of Trump voters would support him even if he colluded with Russia

Dittohead not! said:
I have to admit, he did get the Congress to pass tax cuts. There weren't corresponding spending cuts, but tax cuts, thumbs up. He did nominate one SC, will a second, and the Republican controlled Congress will, no doubt, confirm. There's a blow struck against Roe V Wade Foreign policy, well, he's managed to alienate our allies and get some mouth noises from Kim Jung Un about nuclear disarmament, but he's made those same mouth noises before.

The fence paid for by Mexico is a pipe dream. The only way he can get Congress to consider paying for it is to hold the Dreamers, then the children separated from their parents, hostage. The root causes of illegal immigration haven't been addressed.

So, trade wars started, Roe V. Wade in jeopardy, allies alienated, NK still working on nukes, no wall, Obamacare still the law of the land, growing deficits, if that's what the conservatives want, then that's what they're getting.
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ONE year and 6 months and it has only just begun. Ever hear of foreign aid? Stopping foreign aid to Mexico will indeed pay for the wall but regardless the economic results tell a different story than the radical left wants to discuss or acknowledge. America First? Job Creation? Economic growth? Tax cuts? Supreme Court Nominee? Trump did more in a year that Obama did in 8 and all benefiting the country
 
Conservative said:
ONE year and 6 months and it has only just begun. Ever hear of foreign aid? Stopping foreign aid to Mexico will indeed pay for the wall but regardless the economic results tell a different story than the radical left wants to discuss or acknowledge. America First? Job Creation? Economic growth? Tax cuts? Supreme Court Nominee? Trump did more in a year that Obama did in 8 and all benefiting the country
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Yes, his rhetoric is quite patriotic, to be sure.

If Trump wants to pay for the wall by stopping foreign aid to Mexico, why doesn't he stop it now and use it to pay for the wall? Why does Congress have to pay up front?

For one thing:
U.S. provides aid worth $320 million a year to Mexico; experts say yanking it could hurt

320 million a year to pay for a 50 billion dollar wall would take over 150 years. We could save it up and build the wall in 2170.
Besides, what does that "foreign aid" pay for?

The largest chunk of U.S. aid goes toward law enforcement — including helping Mexican authorities capture drug lords — supporting improvements to the Mexican judicial system and security, including along Mexico’s southern border, helping stem the flow of immigrants from Central and South America.
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Hmm.. could backfire.... could backfire.... what do you suppose that means?
 
Dittohead not! said:
Yes, his rhetoric is quite patriotic, to be sure.

If Trump wants to pay for the wall by stopping foreign aid to Mexico, why doesn't he stop it now and use it to pay for the wall? Why does Congress have to pay up front?

For one thing:
U.S. provides aid worth $320 million a year to Mexico; experts say yanking it could hurt

320 million a year to pay for a 50 billion dollar wall would take over 150 years. We could save it up and build the wall in 2170.
Besides, what does that "foreign aid" pay for?



Hmm.. could backfire.... could backfire.... what do you suppose that means?
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We shall see what happened the next 2 1/2 years
 
Conservative said:
We shall see what happened the next 2 1/2 years
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If Democrats make a comeback this fall, then Trump's dream of a wall is dead. If not, then Congress just might pay for it. Mexico is not going to pay for it.
 
Dittohead not! said:
If Democrats make a comeback this fall, then Trump's dream of a wall is dead. If not, then Congress just might pay for it. Mexico is not going to pay for it.
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Why exactly would anyone vote for today's radical Democratic Party and their candidates/
 
Dittohead not! said:
Tariffs and trade wars.
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Again, rhetoric vs. results. Let me know how the so called trade war has hurt economic activity and job creation? Seems you buy what you are told and ignore the actual results.
 
Conservative said:
Again, rhetoric vs. results. Let me know how the so called trade war has hurt economic activity and job creation? Seems you buy what you are told and ignore the actual results.
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Trump trade policies threaten 2.6 million US jobs, Chamber of Commerce says

and it's already begun, but just begun:

The first casualties of President Trump’s trade war are 60 workers at Mid-Continent Nail, America’s largest nail manufacturer. They lost their jobs on June 15 at a factory in a part of Missouri that voted overwhelmingly for Trump. The whole company could be out of business by Labor Day.
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source
 
Dittohead not! said:
Trump trade policies threaten 2.6 million US jobs, Chamber of Commerce says

and it's already begun, but just begun:



source
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Wow, more predictions of Gloom and doom, what a shock!! We have job numbers out Friday, let's see how they turn out even if it matters.

There is so much corruption in today's Democratic Party so I guess the way to address that is to divert and attack Trump. Doubt that the silent majority are going to buy the rhetoric. Really is too bad that the radical left is doing their best to destroy this country and convert it to that European Socialist economy just like your state, open borders, high taxes, high govt. spending and poor quality of life with a high cost of living

Seems like unfair labor practices of foreign governments and currency manipulation aren't an issue for you nor is the trade gap generated by these policies
 
Conservative said:
Wow, more predictions of Gloom and doom, what a shock!! We have job numbers out Friday, let's see how they turn out even if it matters.

There is so much corruption in today's Democratic Party so I guess the way to address that is to divert and attack Trump. Doubt that the silent majority are going to buy the rhetoric. Really is too bad that the radical left is doing their best to destroy this country and convert it to that European Socialist economy just like your state, open borders, high taxes, high govt. spending and poor quality of life with a high cost of living

Seems like unfair labor practices of foreign governments and currency manipulation aren't an issue for you nor is the trade gap generated by these policies
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Rhetoric about unfair labor practices of foreign governments and currency manipulation isn't so much of an issue, nor is the trade gap supposedly generated by those policies.

Trade wars are not easy to win, nor are they good.

I also posted a link, just one of many available, about jobs already lost due to the trade wars that are just now starting.

Democrats have nothing to do with this.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Rhetoric about unfair labor practices of foreign governments and currency manipulation isn't so much of an issue, nor is the trade gap supposedly generated by those policies.

Trade wars are not easy to win, nor are they good.

I also posted a link, just one of many available, about jobs already lost due to the trade wars that are just now starting.

Democrats have nothing to do with this.
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Right now there is NO trade war and until their is the US economy continues to boom. You don't seem to understand the difference between our economy and the world, we are a private sector economy with low dependence on foreign govt. spending whereas the world economy is dependent greatly on govt. spending to stimulate and grow their economy thus manipulation of the markets benefit those countries, not ours
 
Conservative said:
Right now there is NO trade war and until their is the US economy continues to boom. You don't seem to understand the difference between our economy and the world, we are a private sector economy with low dependence on foreign govt. spending whereas the world economy is dependent greatly on govt. spending to stimulate and grow their economy thus manipulation of the markets benefit those countries, not ours
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There are trade wars just starting. We are just beginning to see the results. The Chamber of Commerce, among others, is predicting negative results should they continue. So far, the results have already been negative.
 
Conservative said:
You are indeed a legend in your own mind, spent much of my career in California, the worst business state in the nation, the home of the haves and the have nots and the highest cost of living and EPA regulations in the country. Nothing independent about you, just no guts to admit who you truly are
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Didn't cite your own sources and didn't answer my question. We all know who the legend in his own mind is.
 
Anthony60 said:
I just wonder what illegal activities went on during those eight years. If Hillary had won, we never would have know about all the corruption and protection going on the keep the Dems in power. Can you imagine what they did during Obama's second campaign? We will never know, but it's highly likely that the corruption was in full swing. Especially when you have a media that not only would keep it quiet, but probably participated.
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Agreed. I am not sure I can ever trust the FBI or Justice Department again in my lifetime. And you can probably imagine what kind of pond scum Hillary would have appointed to the US Supreme Court.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
Didn't cite your own sources and didn't answer my question. We all know who the legend in his own mind is.
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I have posted over and over again my sources, including census data, bea.gov data, Bls.gov data but you are too indoctrinated that actual data doesn't resonate. You believe what you are told and that is all that matters

TRUE: California has the nation?s highest poverty rate, when factoring in cost-of-living | PolitiFact California

https://krcb.org/krcb-news-feed/california-leads-the-nation-in-homelessness

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ranks-last-quality-life-new-report/384853002/

https://www.ocregister.com/2016/05/19/survey-california-still-worst-state-for-business/
 
ObamacareFail said:
If those growers have an IQ of at least 85, they can work it out.
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They don't seem to have.

If they can really bring in busloads of Mexicans to work the fields, then Trump's wall, should it ever be built, won't be very effective, will it?
 
Conservative said:
I have posted over and over again my sources, including census data, bea.gov data, Bls.gov data but you are too indoctrinated that actual data doesn't resonate. You believe what you are told and that is all that matters

TRUE: California has the nation?s highest poverty rate, when factoring in cost-of-living | PolitiFact California

https://krcb.org/krcb-news-feed/california-leads-the-nation-in-homelessness

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ranks-last-quality-life-new-report/384853002/

https://www.ocregister.com/2016/05/19/survey-california-still-worst-state-for-business/
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Yes, you have, and we know that you're factoring the cost of living into the number of poor in California.

Did you happen to notice the data I posted about the relative cost of living in two cities, one in California and one in Texas? Seems it matters more which town you live in than it does which state.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Yes, you have, and we know that you're factoring the cost of living into the number of poor in California.

Did you happen to notice the data I posted about the relative cost of living in two cities, one in California and one in Texas? Seems it matters more which town you live in than it does which state.
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Every state is measured the same way and every state has different costs of living in different cities but California leads the nation because of high taxes, high regulations, and social programs to fund illegals
 
Dittohead not! said:
I have to admit, he did get the Congress to pass tax cuts. There weren't corresponding spending cuts, but tax cuts, thumbs up. He did nominate one SC, will a second, and the Republican controlled Congress will, no doubt, confirm. There's a blow struck against Roe V Wade Foreign policy, well, he's managed to alienate our allies and get some mouth noises from Kim Jung Un about nuclear disarmament, but he's made those same mouth noises before.
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Glad he's reversed the way we treated Israel and Iran, that was backwards for a while.
The fence paid for by Mexico is a pipe dream. The only way he can get Congress to consider paying for it is to hold the Dreamers, then the children separated from their parents, hostage. The root causes of illegal immigration haven't been addressed.
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It's funny, the left really, really, really cares about the wall and who's paying for it, as if it is the one thing that is causing a deficit. They couldn't care less about trillions of dollars the previous eight years.

So, trade wars started, Roe V. Wade in jeopardy, allies alienated, NK still working on nukes, no wall, Obamacare still the law of the land, growing deficits, if that's what the conservatives want, then that's what they're getting.
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So, tariffs, I'm not a big fan of. Roe V. Wade, not a fan of that, either. NK, just started, so the jury is out there, but he's done more than anyone else.
 
Conservative said:
I have posted over and over again my sources, including census data, bea.gov data, Bls.gov data but you are too indoctrinated that actual data doesn't resonate. You believe what you are told and that is all that matters

TRUE: California has the nation?s highest poverty rate, when factoring in cost-of-living | PolitiFact California

https://krcb.org/krcb-news-feed/california-leads-the-nation-in-homelessness

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ranks-last-quality-life-new-report/384853002/

https://www.ocregister.com/2016/05/19/survey-california-still-worst-state-for-business/
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That has got to be one of the lamest attempts at a dodge, ever.

What you so confidently (and baselessly) claimed was that Californians were less informed than Texans. Not surprisingly, not a single link above addressed that point at all.

Like all alt-right cultists, you're the one who believes what he is told, and that is all that matters to him.
 
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