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Political polarization in America

Lafayette

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The polarization pf politics can become a bad habit. Especially when only one of two-parties dominates both parliamentarian-houses.

From here: The polarization in today’s Congress has roots that go back decades

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Conservatives are apparently realizing just how dangerous it can be compromising their moral and ideological integrity merely to assuage a bunch of closet Communists.
 
Conservatives are apparently realizing just how dangerous it can be compromising their moral and ideological integrity merely to assuage a bunch of closet Communists.

Conservatives aren't conservative. You guys confuse "conservatism" with patriarchy, fundamentalism, nativism, and cultural chauvinism. Those are not the kinds of conservative ideals that a complex society can rely on to function as times and circumstances change, which they inevitably do no matter how much you stamp your feet and yell at the TV screen in protest.
 
Curious, what do you consider to be good “conservative ideals?”
 
Curious, what do you consider to be good “conservative ideals?”

Education.

Fiscal responsibility.

Keeping communities safe.

The rule of law.

Those are things that conservatives talk about but don't actually believe in.
 
The polarization pf politics can become a bad habit. Especially when only one of two-parties dominates both parliamentarian-houses.

From here: The polarization in today’s Congress has roots that go back decades

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The graph shows that the republicants are moving farther from the (oddly defined?) center (much?) more rapidly than the demorats are. What that ignores is that the (ideologically relative?) center (as defined by the ‘researchers’) appears to have moved (perhaps to have even disappeared?), but that’s not indicated by the graph.

 
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Curious, what do you consider to be good “conservative ideals?”

The (now non-existent?) republicant agreement with the most conservative demorats. That’s what I see as the basic problem with (flaw in?) the methodology used by the OP‘s research.
 
I don’t see today's liberals as being more left than FDR was back in 1932.
 
72 genders, and we’re told it’s the political right that has gone further out on the ledge.


You can see how far to right conservatives have gone by simply looking at the justices they have put on the Supreme Court over the past 60 years.

Just for starters, they could once be pro-choice, pro-gun control, pro-voting rights, pro separation of church and state and pro-affirmative action.

40 years ago, Robert Bork was rejected by a bi-partisan consensus for the court because he was considered to be too extreme. Today, his thinking dominates the conservative wing of the court.
 
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They’re certainly more efficient than they were in FDR’s day.

FDR spoke of the “four freedoms,” but today’s left as “right sized” that list, and severed three of them. Freedom of worship and speech have been deemed counter productive and, my goodness, where would the left be if people were not afraid?

Today the left markets itself only under the heading of “Freedom From Want.” The state shall provide.
 

You appear to be pro-expanding federal government power with no need for Constitutional amendment.
 
It’s important to remember that it’s conservatives who have become extreme, and Democrats today are not really any different than they were in FDR’s day.

 
Conservatives are apparently realizing just how dangerous it can be compromising their moral and ideological integrity merely to assuage a bunch of closet Communists.
I think moral and ideological integrity were thrown out by voting for someone who does not know the definition of either.
 
Well, that is certainly FDR-like, you have to give him that.

That was precisely my point. There is noting “pro-gun control” in the constitution, yet he wants the SCOTUS to create it or to allow states to do so. There are (limited) areas where those on the left become very adamant about “states rights”.
 
It’s important to remember that it’s conservatives who have become extreme, and Democrats today are not really any different than they were in FDR’s day.

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So you're laser focused on...transgenderism.

Like that is the real threat to this country.

Seems more...personal.
 
Same as you, it’s simply the way which I see it. You offered no examples whatsoever, and will get none in return. That’s “fairness” - is it not?

FDR in 1936.

"We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace—business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering.

..Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me—and I welcome their hatred.

I should like to have it said of my first Administration that in it the forces of selfishness and of lust for power met their match. I should like to have it said of my second Administration that in it these forces met their master."

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Pretty radical stuff. No less left than liberals today, and for some, quite a bit more.
 
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