A Newport, Rhode Island police sergeant reported Navy Yard shooter Aaron Alexis to naval station police last month after the suspect told cops he was “hearing voices” through his hotel room wall and that three people were following him and sending vibrations into his body, according to a police report obtained by FoxNews.com.
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50 years ago the police would have been allowed to involuntary commit Aaron Alexis to a mental facility for at least a 2 week evaluation. he could have gotten the help he needed and saved the public from his mental breakdown that led to the shooting
So it seems like there was negligence as well.
As they shouldn't be.not by the police in Rhode Island they are not allowed to involuntary commit any one unless they are a immediate threat to him self or the public
As they shouldn't be.
So they are giving security clearances to known nutjobs and people are worried about what they are doing with all the raw data the government is gathering :doh
On a more serious note, I have had to deal with mental people. It can be hard. They can be normal when they are on the meds and in a stable life situation and be bat poot crazy if they are not taking their meds properly or life becomes too stressful for them.
Read more: Police warned Navy about gunman's mental instability 6 weeks ago, report says | Fox News
50 years ago the police would have been allowed to involuntary commit Aaron Alexis to a mental facility for at least a 2 week evaluation. he could have gotten the help he needed and saved the public from his mental breakdown that led to the shooting
not by the police in Rhode Island they are not allowed to involuntary commit any one unless they are a immediate threat to him self or the public
So should mental hospitals be a state issue or federal issue?
Over the last 20 or 30 years many states cut funding for mental institutions by as much 50% to 80% and many state mental hospitals closed down completely leaving community centers and jails to pick up the slack. But they don't have much funding either and often times the mentally ill are just given a quick check over and a prescription and sent on their way or they spend a night in jail and released the next day.
So they are giving security clearances to known nutjobs and people are worried about what they are doing with all the raw data the government is gathering :doh
On a more serious note, I have had to deal with mental people. It can be hard. They can be normal when they are on the meds and in a stable life situation and be bat poot crazy if they are not taking their meds properly or life becomes too stressful for them.
even if it would have saved the lives of 12 including his own
how is it ok to infringe on the rights of the millions of gun owners for so called public safety, but not to do the same of the mentally ill for the same reason
Your right and its a huge problem!
not by the police in Rhode Island they are not allowed to involuntary commit any one unless they are a immediate threat to him self or the public
How are you a libertarian? You can't hold a person against their will because you assume something or presume something. That would be holding someone against their will, infringement.
Yeah, but we could stop people who hear voices in their heads and show clear signs of mental illness, violence, and are a pretty clear time bomb ready to explode from owning guns. Responsible people will occasionally lose it and that is a risk many seem willing to take, but there are nutbars who we know are not safe with weapons and I think it is about time we stop allowing them to get one.
oh, and an added benefit is that if a person is seeing a shrink who thinks they are disabled mentally and need to go onto social security disability and psych meds we can keep them from getting guns. That might lower the people conning the system about mental disability and perhaps slow down the over prescription of psych medication to people who do not need it. One might be a little less willing to get a psych med prescription so they can sell it for profit if they would have to give up their ability to legally own a gun because they are evaluated as nutbars by a "professional" shrink.
If the shooter had been white this probably wouldn't have happened as authorities would have acted on all the red flags present on this guys.. In the world we live in today these things get overlooked by most government entities because they do not want to face a race issue if they "handle it".
So should mental hospitals be a state issue or federal issue?
Over the last 20 or 30 years many states cut funding for mental institutions by as much 50% to 80% and many state mental hospitals closed down completely leaving community centers and jails to pick up the slack. But they don't have much funding either and often times the mentally ill are just given a quick check over and a prescription and sent on their way or they spend a night in jail and released the next day.
It's sad that Alexis tried to get help for himself from the police and the VA hospital and then just sent on his way. Everybody seems to agree that mental illness is an issue, but nobody seems to be doing anything about it. A couple weeks from now people will hardly give it a second thought....until another mass shooting happens again and again like some "macabe ritual" that US society has just resigned itself to. With each mass killing the public seems to become more and more jaded.
they lost their funding because most patients where released because they wasn't allowed to be held against their will anymore unless they where a immediate threat to themselves or the public and that isn't decided upon unless they commit a crime that is why they end up in jail
It doesn't appear to be working. It's like a one size fits all treatment....take a pill and check iback next month....and hope the patients take their medication in the meantime.
that would require the mentally ill to be registered as such it would require doctors to release patient information to law enforcement. are you willing to go there?
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