Strip all city and government employees of sovereign immunity and I bet you they will start to behave in a hurry.
Anyone who can't do any job the way that it should be done for whatever reason needs to move on.
Whether the job is picking up garbage or policing the community.
They are rarely found guilty and their accountability generally consists of being suspended with pay for a short period of time. If that.
The cop that was forced to resign because he--gasp--said a dirty word reacted to a highly stressful situation. i.e. in the heat of the moment.
Now that this cop is no longer employed, he can get a job as a night watchman. He will then be free to cuss all he wants while he makes his rounds at some empty warehouse somewhere.
How do you 'catch' them? They are gone by the time cops get there. In most states you cant physically restrain anyone either. (And they're just going to let you? Listen to you?)
You dont know much about charges and trial dates do you? You may wait months for your property or never get it back, even if the police get them on your property. Otherwise? Good luck seeing it again, period.
Maybe if there are a couple of cops using the forum, they'll step up and tell us if there is or not.
I'd also like to know if there's a code of silence within PD's too. I have to believe there is because of all the corruption that was a pattern in Chicago, and some other cities.
Here's hoping he finds a position in another department, in your community. :mrgreen:
You can't physically restrain them but it's OK to shoot them? Really?
No, you're just missing the point. If you want positive comments for LEO's I'm sure there's plenty in the gun forum.Is it?
Am I just missing all the positive comments?
Ok, at what point does someone have to steal YOUR property, before you feel like you need to defend your property with violence??Where do you draw the line
You cant do either in any state but TX.
You may be able to physically restrain them...if you are capable...but if you 'hurt' them I'm pretty sure you open yourself up to charges...if not municipal, then civil.
Thought you might find this interesting-
there are a number of adverse consequences from having all officers carry guns all of the time and to feel empowered to use them. For one thing, the officers’ own guns are frequently used against them. A 2013 study found that 10 percent of officer fatalities were of officers shot with their own guns. It’s hard to know in how many more cases officers deploy their own guns out of fear that a suspect could use their firearm against them. But we do know that in the case of Michael Brown, officers are at least claiming Brown was trying to take their gun — not that Brown had his own.
Perhaps the most self-evident adverse consequence is what Newburn calls the “potential for overreaction.” “We have seen in the not too distant past cases in St. Louis and elsewhere where it’s hard to see that it was advisable or necessary,” Newburn said. Most who study police shootings agree that fear is a primary motivating factor, particularly fear of other guns. In other recent police shootings, police killed individuals because they mistook a watering hose, a Wii remote, and cell phones for guns.
Japan provides a different sort of contrast, because officers do carry guns. But almost no one else does. Police are also given more training than in the United States, and place a heavy focus on martial arts training because police “are expected to use [firearms] in only the rarest of circumstances,” according to David Kopel, who studied Japanese gun control. The message seems to be working, because Japanese cops have killed just one person in the past six years, according to the Economist.
If Ferguson Were In The UK, Michael Brown Would Almost Certainly Be Alive | ThinkProgress
Now that this cop is no longer employed, he can get a job as a night watchman. He will then be free to cuss all he wants while he makes his rounds at some empty warehouse somewhere.
That has nothing to do with "militarization".
My point, is that you are suggesting that their civil rights should be violated from the git-go.
The same reason you must be this high to ride this ride. You are just some random dude on the internet, they are trained officers with a job. In any event, it's not a double standard, it's just a standard.
Liberal compassion on display.
Why do you hate night watchmen?
And because they are trained that makes the behavior even less excusable. All government agents (cops, mayors, congressmen, presidents) need to be held to at least the same standard as the rest of us - if not a higher a standard. Unless you want to make them some kind of above the law royalty.
Militarization is about attitudes. Policing is about enforcing laws and protecting the citizenry. Soldiering is about meeting a nations political objectives by killing the nation's enemies. The two are mutually exclusive.
Since the "War on Drugs" - emphasis on the word war - police have more and more been treating the citizenry as an enemy. That's what militarization means. The hardware is simply an outward manifestation of it.
I've made no such suggestion. Nor do I believe any such thing. Point it out please and I will gladly retract the statement.
Why is it ignorant? If anything the cop should be treated more harshly because he's an agent of the state who abused his authority.
Liberal compassion on display.
Yeah, it's frankly incredible. Justice warriors on display :roll:
Me? You're the one that wants what in your eyes is a reject, a subhuman, to become a night watchman. :lamo
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