Once again, I'll post this. Seems like I have to look this up every few months.
‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens - The Onion - America's Finest News Source
I think creating a separate offense makes it easier to keep people like terrorist and people that commit hate crimes in jail. Not everyone prosecuted of a hate crime or terrorism was effective in murdering someone. They may of been planning, they may of tried to purchase material for a bomb. A lot of hate crimes include the destruction of property.Well, first, I don't think they're any more effective than the death penalty is at reducing the risk of terror attacks. By and large, those willing to commit terrorist attacks are quite ready to pay the ultimate price. These are folks who seek attention for their horrific crimes and we've already given them a spiffy name - terrorists. Oooohhh, how scary. Just feeds into their power grab.
Do you think labeling someone as a terrorist makes them less likely to commit harmful acts? Isn't it a bit on the sensationalist side? Look what it did for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. Put his likeness smack dab on the cover of Rolling Stones, and made the little girls swoon. That was really effective, wasn't it?
Bottom line - I don't think the scary labels work - and I think there's a good chance that they'll work against us.
Why don't you answer the question?
Ted Bundy's victims were all carefully selected because they resembled the girl who broke up with him in college. His spree went on for many years.
Roof, like that POS in Newtown, selected the most vulnerable of victims - obviously unarmed churchgoers. Only slightly above unarmed 1st graders in terms of vulnerability.
People who target children, the elderly and animals are all sick cowards who intentionally select those who can not defend themselves. That's what this guy did. He had no interest in a civil war. He harbors some kind of demons in his head.
You're neglecting the fact that SC and the rest of the Deep South are still vehemently racist. The guy didn't start a race war; a race war already exists in that part of the country.
Despite the image SC officials are trying to portray to the rest of the country, the perp who shot up the church will be hailed as a hero by most of the Whites living in SC.
The onion? And even more than that, an Onion article that offers a grand total of 0 solutions.
You can't call it "effective gun control" when there's more guns than people. You can't call it "effective gun control" when the most common reaction to "only" one or two people getting shot on the street is a yawn.
As I stated in my post, there is NO instance where effective gun control in a democracy brought about tyranny, and there is NO instance where lack of gun control brought about that "polite society". Such things are only in your fantasies, because in REAL LIFE, effective gun control brings about MORE peaceful societies, where people don't have to be afraid to walk down the street at night. In REAL LIFE, a glaring lack of gun control results in more violent societies - always has, alway will.
So you have a choice - you can choose to believe the fantasies fed you by the right-wing echo chamber...or you can choose to believe what has actually happened in democracies with effective gun control and in nations without effective gun control.
Try basing your beliefs on real-world data - with a realization that people are people are people all over the world - and you'll find something completely different than what the gun-manufacturing-industry spokespeople at the NRA would have you believe.
That reminds me, Ted Bundy worked for the RNC in Seattle. Both Gacy and Bundy were serial killers which is different breed in itself. But hey, nice try at deflection and moving the goal posts. Wanna see a list for Republican sex offenders?
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You say that, but where are all these whites hailing him as a hero? Goshin, I think its Goshin, lives there.
And has already stated in this thread that everyone down there he has heard from, talked to has condemned this attack, even specifically mentioned rednecks condemning this in an earlier post.
South Carolina is home to 19 known hate groups — including two factions of the Ku Klux Klan and four "white nationalist" organizations, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Charleston Church Shooting: KKK, White Supremacists Operate in South Carolina - NBC News
Your view of people in the south is clearly twisted. Turn off the tv, and go to SC. Meet the people there.
That reminds me, Ted Bundy worked for the RNC in Seattle. Both Gacy and Bundy were serial killers which is different breed in itself. But hey, nice try at deflection and moving the goal posts. Wanna see a list for Republican sex offenders?
He is one person. I said the majority of Whites there are racist, even if he isn't.
Sorry, personal acquaintances are not a representative sample of the White population in SC.
For example, I grew up in AZ, and the majority of people I knew there while I went to Jr. High, High School, etc. did not harbor any hatred or resentment toward Latinos.
However, it would be foolish of me to deny that the majority of Whites in AZ are undocumented immigrant bashers.
What is known is the evidence that's been documented and made public--that SC has one of the highest number of anti-immigrant/racist groups operating in the state. . .
We also know that SC is a state where police officers are allowed to shoot any Black person anytime of their choosing, w/out facing any repercussions (unless, of course, one of them is unfortunate enough to be caught on a videocam that the mainstream media later picks up on).
I myself am not White, so I wouldn't dare set foot in a place like that. I'd likely be arrested for walking on the sidewalk the first day.
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Well actually you should write legislation for gun control groups, any law written as you're proposing would be struck down as unconstitutionally vague.
Game? I just offered a compromise measure to your more extreme ideas, from a country with among the lowest homicode rates in the world. See you wonder why it's rare any gun legislation gets passed, this is exhibit A.
However I think I made my point, you're now suggesting banning ordinary rifles while terming them "sniper rifles" because the M-24 is only a hunting rifle with a bipod and lightened trigger. You can't possibly ban that without banning the parent rifle, not in any way that won't get tossed void for vagueness
One more poster looks up and sees the point going over their head.
The point is that nine innocent people who were studying the Bible and sharing the Word with this sick young man were then summarily executed in God's house. They haven't even been buried yet, and yet partisans can't wait to point fingers and to gore others' oxen.
‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
ISLA VISTA, CA—In the days following a violent rampage in southern California in which a lone attacker killed seven individuals, including himself, and seriously injured over a dozen others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Tuesday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said North Carolina resident Samuel Wipper, echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20 times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep this guy from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what he really wanted.” At press time, residents of the only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass shootings have occurred every month for the past five years were referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”
Glen always paints the south as being racist. He lived there, he knows it, and so on. If someone didn't know anything but what he posted, you would swear that everyone is racist in the south.
Please support those statements.
SC is a fine state.
That's not what he said at all. What is just true is it's different here than where you live, or in Canada, and it definitely relates to CENTURIES of institutionalized racism and state enforced white supremacy in this region that didn't officially end until the 1960s (my lifetime) and still exists because many people brought up in that culture are still alive and haven't changed all that much, and many of them handed down their own biases to their children born in the 1960s and 70s. But that attitude is slowly and literally dying out, which is a good thing (not that people are dying, but that the ingrained racism they learned as children is...).
A good example is that Baptist Church in Kentucky that voted to ban interracial marriage in their church and wouldn't allow the black boyfriend/fiance to sing with the choir. The vote was 9-6 for the ban, but 25 or more didn't vote and so were in Glen's formulation "tolerant" of the racists in their church. The vote is probably flipped in almost all churches now, but various polls have shown that in this decade (the 2010s), between 20-40% of conservative whites support racist interracial marriage bans, so the belief isn't rare at all.
The only surprising thing to me is that the church had a vote, and a majority was willing to put their racism on the record. But even with that the ringleader had to hilariously disavow racism as the motive (of course not....), so the culture is absolutely changing.
So do we have any new information? Or is it just a bicker fest about guns and racism?
Thanks Obama.
I already did. Apparently, you missed my cite about the 19 racist groups operating in SC.
And as for cops in SC being allowed to shoot Blacks freely, that's become apparent in the last few months, unless, of course, you're naive enough to believe that the only incidents of this happening are the ones caught on video.
No it's not. It's a state filled w/the one of the highest number of failing schools and bunch of conservatives who vote for among the most pathetic, corrupt pols in the country.
If I wanted to go no vacation somewhere, SC would be no. 9000 on my list of places to visit.
I'm too numb from all the violence. I almost don't care anymore.
I already did. Apparently, you missed my cite about the 19 racist groups operating in SC.
And as for cops in SC being allowed to shoot Blacks freely, that's become apparent in the last few months, unless, of course, you're naive enough to believe that the only incidents of this happening are the ones caught on video.
No it's not. It's a state filled w/the one of the highest number of failing schools and bunch of conservatives who vote for among the most pathetic, corrupt pols in the country.
If I wanted to go no vacation somewhere, SC would be no. 9000 on my list of places to visit.
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If I wanted to go on vacation somewhere, SC would be no. 9000 on my list of places to visit.
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