@MyFoxOrlando: Police say a weapon was “present” during the #GeorgeZimmerman incident in Lake Mary, FL, but NOT “involved.”
@MyFoxOrlando: Police say a weapon was “present” during the #GeorgeZimmerman incident in Lake Mary, FL, but NOT “involved.”
For the time being, "domestic violence can't be invoked because she has changed her story and says she didn't see a firearm," Bracknell said.The wife claimed he had his hand on his gun, that sounds involved to me.
It's consistent with past behavior on his part so I am not surprised to hear it. Seems more likely it was true than not.
@MyFoxOrlando: Police say a weapon was “present” during the #GeorgeZimmerman incident in Lake Mary, FL, but NOT “involved.”
Reminds me of OJ. He might get some prison time over this.
I had no problem believing it either, until I saw on CNN that the Police stated no gun was involved, and then saw that his wife had changed her story.
I've been on the wrong end of a pissed off woman before, and because of that experience, I can believe she may have said some things on the 911 call that were not exactly correct, in an attempt to get her soon to be ex-husband in trouble.
Would you or would you not feel threatened if someone who was clearly upset with you had a gun in their hands? It's presence is what is relevant not whether or not he took a shot at someone. Right?
Would you or would you not feel threatened if someone who was clearly upset with you had a gun in their hands? It's presence is what is relevant not whether or not he took a shot at someone. Right?
If it was in his hand momentarily, while pointed at the floor, because he was putting in his luggage to take out to the car.... no, I would not automatically feel threatened.
Per most state's laws, simply having a gun in your hand is not necessarily a crime of assault or threatening act, unless you add menacing behavior or verbal threats to same, or POINT the gun at someone, or commit another crime while armed.
The asshole punched his father-in-law in the face possibly breaking his nose. It doesn't matter if she pleads to let him go and claims him to be an angel ...that's assault.
Of course I would. But now she's saying it wasn't. So what do I believe? What she said when she was hysterical and pissed off at him and trying to get him in trouble? Or what she's saying now?
The only reason I even got into this thread, was when I saw that what everyone thought, including me, was wrong.
The asshole punched his father-in-law in the face possibly breaking his nose. It doesn't matter if she pleads to let him go and claims him to be an angel ...that's assault.
He' going to jail.
The asshole punched his father-in-law in the face possibly breaking his nose. It doesn't matter if she pleads to let him go and claims him to be an angel ...that's assault.
He' going to jail.
Well once again. No one will ever know for certain unless some else can provide more objective evidence. It is not uncommon for women to back down though. Even if she was wrong about the gun, the menacing behavior is telling.
That I'm sure is true, but not with my wife... it's one of the reasons I love her so much (and am scared to death of her as well).
As a women. If a man was angry at me, especially if his ego was involved because I was leaving him, I would feel threatened. I understand your reasoning here but I do think it is different for women.
Regardless, his language was threatening. That is if she has provided an accurate account of what he said.
:lol: My man is in the same predicament. I was about 5'3" and just broke 100lbs in high school and stood up to football players who were bullying kids. I'm definitely trouble.
:lol: My man is in the same predicament. I was about 5'3" and just broke 100lbs in high school and stood up to football players who were bullying kids. I'm definitely trouble.
Her feelings are irrelevant to whether his alleged (now recanted) having a gun in hand was a crime.
Anyone can feel threatened... it isn't a crime unless reasonable menacing behavior was involved, along with opportunity and ability to carry out same.
Now I don't know exactly what happened, I wasn't there and the story keeps changing... I'm just saying that a gun's presence doesn't necessarily mean squat, unless it is 'brandished' in a menacing manner. Granted my background is a bit unusual but I've had quite a few heated arguments with other men while we were both armed, without feeling like I was in peril of being shot.
Her feelings are irrelevant to whether his alleged (now recanted) having a gun in hand was a crime.
Anyone can feel threatened... it isn't a crime unless reasonable menacing behavior was involved, along with opportunity and ability to carry out same.
Now I don't know exactly what happened, I wasn't there and the story keeps changing... I'm just saying that a gun's presence doesn't necessarily mean squat, unless it is 'brandished' in a menacing manner. .
Granted my background is a bit unusual but I've had quite a few heated arguments with other men while we were both armed, without feeling like I was in peril of being shot
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