GarzaUK said:It's funny isn't it. How the reaction of a 14 year old boy sleeping with a grown woman is different from a 14 year old girl sleeping with a grown man.
I mean if was 14 I would be loving it. :mrgreen:
aps said:LOL, Garza. And this woman is very pretty with a sexy body.
GarzaUK said:It's funny isn't it. How the reaction of a 14 year old boy sleeping with a grown woman is different from a 14 year old girl sleeping with a grown man.
I mean if was 14 I would be loving it. :mrgreen:
Kandahar said:Heh, I agree. This isn't the same thing as a 14-year-old girl sleeping with her male teacher. The kid in this case is LUCKY, because he got to bang his hot teacher. :smile:
aps said:I still don't understand how this case is in two, different jurisdictions (Hillsboro and Marion counties), but nevertheless, the judge in Marion County is thinking about rejecting the plea agreement that the prosecution had with Deborah LaFave (where she would not serve any jail time). Initially, I supported the plea agreement since the kid's family wanted it as well. Apparently, the kid does not want to testify. However, the excuse that LaFave's attorney gave as to why LaFave should not go to jail is just totally bogus (the fact that she is very attractive and what could happen to her by other inmates). LaFave should have thought of that prior to engaging in sex with a 14-year-old kid.
So, it's possible that there will be a trial. It is rare that a judge throws out a plea agreement.
On Dan Abrams's show on MSNBC, they reported that of the 150 cases that involved sexual conduct with minors, 60% of them ended up with plea deals with NO JAIL TIME. What the hell is that? How does that deter people from engaging in this sort of behavior?
Anyway, as to LaFave--we reap what we sew.
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=27032
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=22388
GarzaUK said:But technically she is a child sex offender. Does the law differ with gender? If a guy did it, people would have their torches and pitchforks out.
Why is it different?
Why would I congradulate a male kid who had sex with a grown woman and beat the crap out of a guy who has sex with a young girl?
Just throwing some questions out there.
Trajan Octavian Titus said:And for all you taking the teachers side on this it's not funny and it's not cool, she sexually molested a fourteen year old boy, there is absolutely no difference at all just because the genders were reversed it's fuc/king disgusting and this lady is nuts.
Kandahar said:Oh come on. Do you honestly think that this kid is going to be scarred for life because he scored with his teacher? :roll:
Kandahar said:Oh come on. Do you honestly think that this kid is going to be scarred for life because he scored with his teacher? :roll:
Kandahar said:The same is not as true of an older female with a younger male. I know that if I had got to sleep with an attractive female teacher when I was 14, I'd be mighty proud of it. It certainly wouldn't have traumatized me.
aps said:I still don't understand how this case is in two, different jurisdictions (Hillsboro and Marion counties), but nevertheless, the judge in Marion County is thinking about rejecting the plea agreement that the prosecution had with Deborah LaFave (where she would not serve any jail time). Initially, I supported the plea agreement since the kid's family wanted it as well. Apparently, the kid does not want to testify. However, the excuse that LaFave's attorney gave as to why LaFave should not go to jail is just totally bogus (the fact that she is very attractive and what could happen to her by other inmates). LaFave should have thought of that prior to engaging in sex with a 14-year-old kid.
So, it's possible that there will be a trial. It is rare that a judge throws out a plea agreement.
On Dan Abrams's show on MSNBC, they reported that of the 150 cases that involved sexual conduct with minors, 60% of them ended up with plea deals with NO JAIL TIME. What the hell is that? How does that deter people from engaging in this sort of behavior?
Anyway, as to LaFave--we reap what we sew.
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=27032
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=22388
aps said:I still don't understand how this case is in two, different jurisdictions (Hillsboro and Marion counties), but nevertheless, the judge in Marion County is thinking about rejecting the plea agreement that the prosecution had with Deborah LaFave (where she would not serve any jail time). Initially, I supported the plea agreement since the kid's family wanted it as well. Apparently, the kid does not want to testify. However, the excuse that LaFave's attorney gave as to why LaFave should not go to jail is just totally bogus (the fact that she is very attractive and what could happen to her by other inmates). LaFave should have thought of that prior to engaging in sex with a 14-year-old kid.
So, it's possible that there will be a trial. It is rare that a judge throws out a plea agreement.
On Dan Abrams's show on MSNBC, they reported that of the 150 cases that involved sexual conduct with minors, 60% of them ended up with plea deals with NO JAIL TIME. What the hell is that? How does that deter people from engaging in this sort of behavior?
Anyway, as to LaFave--we reap what we sew.
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=27032
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=22388
hipsterdufus said:Does the kid have to testify to put this wench in jail? He probably has a strong emotional attachment to the teacher, and doesn't want to get her in trouble.
Navy Pride said:They should be able to take taped testimony from him........
Trajan Octavian Titus said:That's not the way it works, according to the 6th amendment everyone has the right to face their accuser in court, the reasoning is is that if you weren't allowed to face your accuser then the tape could be tampered with or the witness could be coerced, also, it removes any shadow of a doubt, and the reason why it was first put into the Bill of Rights was back before there were tape recordings people could have just written anything they wanted and claim that some anonomous witness said it. It's a good law unfortunately in cases like this it's kind of hard to see the reasoning behind it.
Navy Pride said:Well I could be wrong but it seems I have heard of cases where the child was 5 or 6 and in the company of both the defense and the prosecutor was able to make a taped statement............Of course the tape would have to be safeguarded and secured.......
Maybe I have been watching to much Law and Order though..........
talloulou said:First off if you're a 14 yr old guy having sex with your teacher you (the 14 yo) might think its cool....just as a 14 yo girl might think having sex with her teacher is cool. However I'd bet neither the parents of the boy or girl think its cool. It's a mess.
For the girls it's a problem 'cause most of the time the young girl is completely convinced the older men is in love when usually he is not.
But even if you agree boys confuse sex and love less than girls you still have a problem. Look at that one teacher Letourneau...she kept getting pregnant by her young student. That in my opinion is messed up! And I think they eventually got married after she was done her jail time! Now it's possible that they have a great relationship but it's also equally possible in my mind that she messed that boy up completely and ruined his life. He never really got to experience anything but her cause she got to him at such a young age and then started popping out his kids.
talloulou said:Plus I just can't understand what would make an older woman or man turn to children, even teenagers, for sex. There's something strange there in my opinion. If teenagers are gonna have sex it should be with other teenagers.
The teacher in this situation should definitely be punished.
hipsterdufus said:Does the kid have to testify to put this wench in jail? He probably has a strong emotional attachment to the teacher, and doesn't want to get her in trouble.
JOHN FITZGIBBONS, LAFAVE'S ATTORNEY: To place an attractive young woman in that kind of hell home, is like putting a piece of raw meat in with the lions. I'm not sure that Debbie will be able to survive.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11744821/
BOY: I'm a little worried though.
LAFAVE: Why?
BOY: Like I don't want you to like get pregnant or anything. I was just thinking about it and I was just thinking if next time, now that we've had sex about three times, if I should have like a condom or something.
LAFAVE: Oh, you're being weird.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11744821/
Hoot said:She should've waited a few more years, like Demi Moore, then no one would consider the age difference relevant.
Let's see....if Demi had met Ashton when he was 14, Demi would 've been 32. Now that she's 44 and he's 26, people think..."Wow, you go girl!"
This is not to excuse the actions of this teacher, she should go to jail. There should be no plea agreement. I just think it's odd that you tack 5-10 years on the ages, and everyone thinks it's cute?
aps said:I think the Demi-Ashton thing is disgusting.
Hoot said:You must be a Bruce Willis fan? LOL
I agree though, I always thought Demi looked great, and put those younger girls to shame, but now I question if her elevator goes all the way to the top floor? She coulda had me...a mature, intelligent, good looking and experienced man...ROTFL.
Damn..I could've quit my job and Demi could've been my Sugar Mommy!
Oh well...gotta keep working.
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