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PHX sees 24th consecutive day of 110+ F heat - will continue til at least Wed

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Another week of heat: 24 days of 110-degree temps, 30% chance of showers this evening

With another excessive heat warning extended until Wednesday, more record-breaking heat is expected to continue in metro Phoenix.
www.azcentral.com

Remember, folks, El Nino just began. We could possibly be seeing even *worse* heat in 2024, and if not, that's almost certain in 2026-27 when the next El Nino cycle will hit. More significantly, La Nina is not likely to have much of a cooling effect.
 
July 4th was the hottest day we've had in 100,000 years. I live in PHX, and it's been down right creepy with these night time lows. It's 10 at night and still 105.
I've never seen such a long, and excruciating heat wave in all my time here. El Nino is welcome only because it will bring our Monsoon, which we really haven't seen yet. Would be nice to have some moisture. This is truly the devils house.
 
We had 2 minutes of rain last night. Not much, but it has added a bit of humidity.

I've lost my new banana plant and my blood orange tree is not doing well. We need a bit more humidity.

Gonna go out to the pool in about 30 minutes, its only about 104 right now, that is not bad.
 
Ginger Ale said:
July 4th was the hottest day we've had in 100,000 years. I live in PHX, and it's been down right creepy with these night time lows. It's 10 at night and still 105.
I've never seen such a long, and excruciating heat wave in all my time here. El Nino is welcome only because it will bring our Monsoon, which we really haven't seen yet. Would be nice to have some moisture. This is truly the devils house.
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Honestly...that's ****ed. I'm not sure you will see your usual monsoon, but if you do see it, it might be the monsoon of all monsoons. See Milan, Colorado, Vermont, Nova Scotia, etc.
 
Ginger Ale said:
July 4th was the hottest day we've had in 100,000 years. I live in PHX, and it's been down right creepy with these night time lows. It's 10 at night and still 105.
I've never seen such a long, and excruciating heat wave in all my time here. El Nino is welcome only because it will bring our Monsoon, which we really haven't seen yet. Would be nice to have some moisture. This is truly the devils house.
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Makes one wonder how wildlife is faring in the low desert.
 
I have always had an irrational fear of being in Phoenix. Every time I’ve been there, I was worried they would run out of water.
 
multivita-man said:
Honestly...that's ****ed. I'm not sure you will see your usual monsoon, but if you do see it, it might be the monsoon of all monsoons. See Milan, Colorado, Vermont, Nova Scotia, etc.
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It won't be. Last year we had a huge monsoon season, we won't see much this year.
 
Some are saying within the next couple years we may see temperatures as high as 175 here in phoenix.
 
beefheart said:
We had 2 minutes of rain last night. Not much, but it has added a bit of humidity.

I've lost my new banana plant and my blood orange tree is not doing well. We need a bit more humidity.

Gonna go out to the pool in about 30 minutes, its only about 104 right now, that is not bad.
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Read your post and had to chuckle. I was in our winter garden here downunder yesterday and among our many fruit trees I specifically noticed that our bananas and blood orange tree were doing by far the best along with a lemon tree that has gone crazy with fruit this year. Blood orange has a bunch of nice looking fruit that should be ready in a another month or so. It's winter and sunny so might get close to 65 in the sun today. Fortunately we mostly see low 80's or high 70's in the summer with cooler nights. I don't miss the extreme heat, but would happily export some of the rain this winter. If it can hold water here, it's full.
 
Mongidig said:
Some are saying within the next couple years we may see temperatures as high as 175 here in phoenix.
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Not air temperatures - not for at least another century.

But for context, scientists believe there were times when daily high temperatures did in fact reach about 170-180F between the equator and the tropics, and that complex, multicellular life was a struggle on much of the planet below the poles. In particular, the End-Permian Extinction was probably the most extreme of these events. 252 million years ago.
 

To borrow a favorite trick from cable news networks, BREAKING NEWS: It’s hot in Arizona.

One of the mandates during Chris Licht’s ill-fated, brief tenure at CNN was to not use the “breaking news” designation every time a cat got stuck in a tree. Fair enough — if everything is important, nothing is.

Most people, I would guess, have at least a vague notion that it gets hot in Arizona in the summer. I believe it gets cold in Minnesota during the winter, as well. It happens every single year, after all. So it stands to reason that it’s hot again this summer.

Yet the media, national and local, are obsessed with the Arizona heat.

If you’re not devoting air time and newsroom resources to triple digits, can you really call yourself a Phoenix news station? The New York Times might as well have a Phoenix weather bureau, they cover the heat so much. (What editor must you tick off to suffer that assignment?)
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Obviously, we've identified the problem: human-caused heat.

What's the solution?

I think it's a radical rethink of our economic system. We must dedicate our resources to covering up pavement. Making every single place in this country and on this planet more natural. It sounds insane, but that's only because the paychecks we received last week are the product of an environment-destroying system. We most go in the opposite direction. Let grass and vines grow over streets and parking lots.
 
There was a tornado in Milan, followed by tennis-ball sized hail in Northern Italy. That is truly ****ed up.

Tornado tears through Milan following hail storm in northern Italy as south swelters​

Several people injured by terrifying whirlwind as country continues to feel the effects of unprecedented extreme weather

www.telegraph.co.uk

Tornado tears through Milan following hail storm in northern Italy as south swelters

Several people injured by terrifying whirlwind as country continues to feel the effects of unprecedented extreme weather
www.telegraph.co.uk www.telegraph.co.uk
 
multivita-man said:
Obviously, we've identified the problem: human-caused heat.

What's the solution?

I think it's a radical rethink of our economic system. We must dedicate our resources to covering up pavement. Making every single place in this country and on this planet more natural. It sounds insane, but that's only because the paychecks we received last week are the product of an environment-destroying system. We most go in the opposite direction. Let grass and vines grow over streets and parking lots.
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And then we run out of water.
 
Mongidig said:
And then we run out of water.
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Yeah running out of water is a thing, unfortunately. The only way out that I can see is to basically end current usage policies. Much of the waste is from industrial agriculture, which distributes the fruits of its product to many places beyond Arizona.

Arizona's water problem is actually a good illustration of how we are being deceived into believing that we have expanded our carrying capacity when we really haven't. In fact, we've blown way beyond it; we just don't know it yet. Agriculture yields have increased in many parts of the world and we've turned many dry areas like Arizona into productive agricultural regions, but at the expense of water supply. That's why I keep saying, the problem is "overshoot", not just climate change per se.
 
Of Course the jet stream pattern that is causing the persistent high pressure could change,
and the temps get back to their summer Normals.
 
Slartibartfast said:
This obviously can't be climate change, it snowed somewhere that one time.
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There is a theory that the lower temperature difference between the Equator and the North pole,
could be what is causing the jet stream to weaken. This at least sounds plausible,
but if it were caused by added CO2, we would expect the same thing to be happening in the Southern hemisphere.
The fact is the Norther poler regions are warming much faster than the Southern Poler regions.
Why this is happening likely has more to do with black carbon soot, than CO2.
 
beefheart said:
It won't be. Last year we had a huge monsoon season, we won't see much this year.
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If El Nino kicks in come August like my weather geek YouTuber predicts we might have a late sever monsoon. Lots of flash flooding. I'm curious to see if his predictions are correct. It's definitely going to be topsy turvy weather without a stable climate.
 
longview said:
Of Course the jet stream pattern that is causing the persistent high pressure could change,
and the temps get back to their summer Normals.
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Oh it will change all right. Part of the issue we're having is it's changing in ways it we haven't seen since we've had a stable climate. On July 4th we had the warmest day on earth for the last 100,000 years. Not being able to predict the weather is going to become an issue, especially where growing food, and keeping animals alive are a desire.
 
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