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Please show "taking pictures with"... Thanks... "other mistreatment" is ambiguous, so much so, the timid, like to suggest a stern look at a savage taliban would be a war crime....
Please show "taking pictures with"... Thanks... "other mistreatment" is ambiguous, so much so, the timid, like to suggest a stern look at a savage taliban would be a war crime....
The point is, had they not taken pictures, no one would have known. Moreover, whenever there is a war, this sort of thing happens. In order to fight a war, the enemy must be dehumanized, which is why there is always an unofficial name for them that implies that they are less than human.
such is the nature of war. We shouldn't dump on the soldiers.
and posing with body parts is pretty mild compared to some of the things that go on in any war. The only thing different now is the ease at which we can take video and share it with the world.
that's a dishonest strawman and you know it.
mistreatment of the dead, clearly would include using dead bodies of the enemy for photographs where one poses & smiles.
at least, that's what a logical & intelligent interpretation would say.
No, I'm afraid not.
AGREEMENT ON PROVISIONAL ARRANGEMENTS IN AFGHANISTAN
For the participants in the UN Talks on Afghanistan:
Ms. Amena Afzali
Mr. S. Hussain Anwari
Mr. Hedayat Amin Arsala
Mr. Sayed Hamed Gailani
Mr. Rahmatullah Mousa Ghazi
Eng. Abdul Hakim
Mr. Houmayoun Jareer
Mr. Abbas Karimi
Mr. Mustafa Kazimi
Dr. Azizullah Ludin
Mr. Ahmad Wali Massoud
Mr. Hafizullah Asif Mohseni
Prof. Mohammad Ishaq Nadiri
Mr. Mohammad Natiqi
Mr. Aref Noorzay
Mr. Yunus Qanooni
Dr. Zalmai Rassoul
Mr. H. Mirwais Sadeq
Dr. Mohammad Jalil Shams
Prof. Abdul Sattar Sirat
Mr. Humayun Tandar
Mrs. Sima Wali
General Abdul Rahim Wardak
Mr. Azizullah Wasefi
Mr. Pacha Khan Zadran
Witnessed for the United Nations by:
Mr. Lakhdar Brahimi
Special Representative of the Secretary-General for Afghanistan
nonsense. by that idiotic logic you could say a stern look that made a taliban savage feel intimidated was a war crime....
idiotic analogy.
there is no military rule against dirty looks towards the enemy. :lamo
but there is a rule against mistreatment of the dead.
You missed this:
"so tell me, What would you have done to these soldiers for the "war crime" of taking pictures with body parts? dishonorable discharge? Jail? how bad do you want to **** some kids life up, some kid who signed where you would never dare tread, ho bad do you want to see his life ****ed up for taking pictures of some dead savages severed elbow?"
Maybe KP for a week?
Is the problem having posed with body parts, or is it having photographed the incident?
You missed this....
that's a dishonest strawman and you know it.
mistreatment of the dead, clearly would include using dead bodies of the enemy for photographs where one poses & smiles.
at least, that's what a logical & intelligent interpretation would say.
No I didn't. I simply chose not to respond to a silly question.
Maybe KP for a week?
Is the problem having posed with body parts, or is it having photographed the incident?
I don't believe in hell, but I do believe in the rule of law. The US Field Manual (1956) provides that “maltreatment of dead bodies” is a war crime
Who really allowed Karzai to take power? It was our invasion/occupation.
"Karzai's ties with UNOCAL and the Bush administration are the main reason why the CIA pushed him for Afghan leader over rival Abdul Haq, the assassinated former mujaheddin leader from Jalalabad, and the leadership of the Northern Alliance, seen by Langley as being too close to the Russians and Iranians. Haq had no apparent close ties to the U.S. oil industry and, as both a Pushtun and a northern Afghani, was popular with a wide cross-section of the Afghan people, including the Northern Alliance. Those credentials likely sealed his fate."
"During the late 1990s, Karzai worked with an Afghani-American, Zalmay Khalilzad, on the CentGas project. Khalilzad is President Bush's Special National Security Assistant and recently named presidential Special Envoy for Afghanistan. Interestingly, in the White House press release naming Khalilzad special envoy, no mention was made of his past work for UNOCAL. Khalilzad has worked on Afghan issues under National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, a former member of the board of Chevron, itself no innocent bystander in the future CentGas deal. Rice made an impression on her old colleagues at Chevron. The company has named one of their supertankers the SS Condoleezza Rice."
CRG -- Getting used to the idea of double standards: The underlying maxim is "we will punish the crimes of our enemies and reward the crimes of our friends"
The US field manual (1956)?
Really.
Afghan tribal leaders and other Afghan elder's picked him...not Americans, not NATO, not the UN, not the Bildergurg group. His past relationship with America or anyone else is irrelevant.
"For years the US army has been talking about winning hearts and minds in Afghanistan but it appears to be fighting a losing battle.
On March 11, one US soldier went on a shooting rampage claiming the lives of 16 Afghan civilians – nine of them children. It was just the latest in a series of PR disasters for the coalition. Last month a group of US soldiers caused outrage in the country when they accidentally – or so they say - burnt the Holy Quran. Before that, video surfaced of coalition snipers urinating on the dead bodies of alleged Taliban fighters.
While the Obama administration shifted back into damage control mode, the story was also picked up by the now vibrant Afghani media landscape whose various media outlets, including the Taliban's media machine, all had a different tale to tell."
See video at link below:
Afghanistan's propaganda war - Listening Post - Al Jazeera English
You don't have to convince me, you have to convince the Afghans after he is no longer under protection of an occupation by the most powerful military on the planet.
mac does? Why? Is mac the president of the United States? When Bush was in charge of the military during his terms, those in criticism of the wars, and indeed Bush himself, made him personally responsible for things like this, along with bashing the military as a whole, now seems that the current CiC is left out of the equation in the blame the US for the worlds ills game. Why is that?
j-mac
nonsense. by that idiotic logic you could say a stern look that made a taliban savage feel intimidated was a war crime. You could say that not giving each dead taliban savage a proper muslim burial would be a war crime.
so tell me, What would you have done to these soldiers for the "war crime" of taking pictures with body parts? dishonorable discharge? Jail? how bad do you want to **** some kids life up, some kid who signed where you would never dare tread, ho bad do you want to see his life ****ed up for taking pictures of some dead savages severed elbow?
Idiotic logic is obviously a speciality subject with you. I defer to your greater experience.
You need to be shown how these assholes savage and suppress their own people in the name of islam and jihad.
They all paint themselves as the victims, every single one of them, They are true believers of their own hype. They cannot be reasoned with, persuaded or turned. No one can convince them they are wrong.
Reason why, there is no excuse for a live terrorist
Islamic extremists will always find an excuse to rationalize their behavior. Efforts to treat these savages better will not stop the violence. It will only change the excuses the enemy uses to attack us.
That is a brutal fact you seem to fail to understand.
Stop your whining and harden, the **** up
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