Boo Radley
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Where's the proof? You have a recruiting instruction? DoD statistics? Something? Anything?
So? That doesn't stop the govt from trying to get us to stay.
Gave you an entire page. I won't play stupid with you. So:
Denial. :doh :2wave:
The Govt we installed? Imagine that!
We appointed Karzai? We appointed the afghan parliament?
You somehow missed our regime change in Afghanistan and Iraq????
Did we appoint Karzai?
No, we took sides in a civil war just as we did in Iraq. Without our war and support, Karzai would never have gained power, or been able to retain it.
And we were the ones that appointed him as interim president.
You mean there would never have been a Democratic election in Afghanistan for the first time in recorded history?
Did we appoint Karzai?
Without the invasion/occupation of Afghanistan, Karzai would not have become president.
" On 4 November 2001, American special operation forces flew Karzai out of Afghanistan for protection."
" Under the 5 December Bonn Agreement they formed an Interim Administration and named Karzai Chairman of a 29-member governing committee. He was sworn in as leader on 22 December."
Hamid Karzai - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And there will probably never be one again when we pull out and they return to the tribal system they have used for the last 10,000 years.
You can't force Democracy on people at the end of a gun! We should have learned that lesson in Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq. Evidently, we are very low slearners.
It is stretching the very defination of democratic election to claim that Afghanistan held a democratic election. It would also stretch the defination of democracy to claim what Afghanistan has now is a democracy. There are elected officials, but the leaders, as always are tribal. (which isn't as undemocratic as some would make it seem)
What can be said is our arrogance in thinking any nation would gladly shuck centuries of honor and tradition for American concepts is folly beyond belief. That all nations would prefer our system to what they have used for centuries is odd don't you think?
Who appointed him?
World "political leaders".
we were the ones that appointed him as interim president.
How many governments have overthrown Democracy, once installed, and returned to despotism?
It is stretching the very defination of democratic election to claim that Afghanistan held a democratic election. It would also stretch the defination of democracy to claim what Afghanistan has now is a democracy. There are elected officials, but the leaders, as always are tribal. (which isn't as undemocratic as some would make it seem)
What can be said is our arrogance in thinking any nation would gladly shuck centuries of honor and tradition for American concepts is folly beyond belief. That all nations would prefer our system to what they have used for centuries is odd don't you think?
How many are not still being protected by the most powerful military on the planet?
Look at the millions of lives lost in our attempt to install Democracy at the end of a gun in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
World "political leaders".
How many are not still being protected by the most powerful military on the planet?
Look at the millions of lives lost in our attempt to install Democracy at the end of a gun in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
How many are not still being protected by the most powerful military on the planet?
Look at the millions of lives lost in our attempt to install Democracy at the end of a gun in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
Well, hell, let me help you out, then.
The savages are photographing themselves in action for posterity. Only the cretinous jingoists would fail to see this.
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