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You know, prior to this, he was one of the most admired men in this country, not only because of his outstanding military career, but because of who he was and what he stood for, and I don't think public opinion has changed in that regard. I'd still trust him totally to do the right thing for our country over a lot of others that I can think of, and there are many who feel the same, judging from the comments I heard when the story broke yesterday. "Damn shame to have his life ruined" was the consensus, from men and women alike.....
Another fine example of professor lead leftist indoctrination of students in the publicly funded university education system.
Retired Gen. David Petraeus is being harassed by leftists, who chased him down a N.Y. street shouting “scumbag,” ”war criminal” and worse. Mediaite has video of the incident here. The anger and language of the demonstrators are so shocking, NPR issued a warning to viewers.
Petraeus, who resigned as CIA director in a sex scandal, is now teaching at CUNY, where S. Sandor John, Hunter College Adjunct Professor of Latin American History, has been organizing protests against him.
» Gen. Petraeus chased by mob of leftist students - This Just In
Not covered in the national news media that I'm aware of, but other outlets are:
It's been reported that the situation has gotten so bad that New York City police need to not only escort general Petraeus to and from his lectures, but also have to barricade his classroom to prevent disruption and also to ensure his student safe passed to and from the lectures.
Snowden was a contractor and not an actual government agent. Therefore some of the whistleblower protections would not apply to him.
And people donating money to him is not the same as him selling information. What Snowden did was give the information to various British journalists.
It is a dam shame that this misstep cost General Petraeus so much. While with many thinking it'll be recognized as a once in the life time misstep rather than what many are claiming as treasonous, the missing piece is the intent, the malice, of which I've seen none. However not everyone is of that opinion.
Fine examples of leftist ideology ruling over any and all reason if you ask me. Just to put the excoriation of Petraeus in perspective of where it's coming from and who's making those and similar claims against the man.
Maybe the Republican controlled House and Senate shoudl have an investigation into Hillary Clinton's time while she was Secretary Of State?
Why did you ignore the part where I said Snowden should be tried and convicted of the same charges as Patreaus and given the same sentence? Are you so blindingly partisan that even when someone is calling for equal treatment you still whine about bias?
It is a dam shame that this misstep cost General Petraeus so much. While with many thinking it'll be recognized as a once in the life time misstep rather than what many are claiming as treasonous, the missing piece is the intent, the malice, of which I've seen none. However not everyone is of that opinion.
Fine examples of leftist ideology ruling over any and all reason if you ask me. Just to put the excoriation of Petraeus in perspective of where it's coming from and who's making those and similar claims against the man.
Wasn't Snowden's life destroyed when he released classified information? Yes General Betray-us isn't being held to the same standard at all.
I would like this general to have his life ruined and him having to flee the country as well or I would like to see Snowden charged and convincted in absentia with similar punishments.
I would also like to see John McCain charged and convicted because he went to Syria and met with members of Al-Qaeda and ISIS and gave them classified information.
You know, prior to this, he was one of the most admired men in this country, not only because of his outstanding military career, but because of who he was and what he stood for, and I don't think public opinion has changed in that regard. I'd still trust him totally to do the right thing for our country over a lot of others that I can think of, and there are many who feel the same, judging from the comments I heard when the story broke yesterday. "Damn shame to have his life ruined" was the consensus, from men and women alike.....
Snowden released info publically.
Petraues released info to a woman who was a commissioned military officer who did not divulge it further. Big difference
She wrote a ****ing book on it the information given. Are you that daft? Also Petraues should be stripped of his retirement (all $220,000 a year) and benefits as he was an Officer who violated Article 133 and Article 134 and admitted to it..
Our (Americans) worship of him has saved his ass and that's sickening. He violated the UMCJ.
Which classified info made it to the book ?
So you think only federal agents can be whistleblowers even if contractors are doing the same work?So we have established he is not a whistleblower.
Has he or has he not profited from his crimes?
You know, prior to this, he was one of the most admired men in this country, not only because of his outstanding military career, but because of who he was and what he stood for, and I don't think public opinion has changed in that regard. I'd still trust him totally to do the right thing for our country over a lot of others that I can think of, and there are many who feel the same, judging from the comments I heard when the story broke yesterday. "Damn shame to have his life ruined" was the consensus, from men and women alike.....
Don't hyperventilate. It was a misdemeanor and no information was disclosed to the public.
The sentence of probation is normal this type of offense.
It is a dam shame that this misstep cost General Petraeus so much. While with many thinking it'll be recognized as a once in the life time misstep rather than what many are claiming as treasonous, the missing piece is the intent, the malice, of which I've seen none. However not everyone is of that opinion.
Fine examples of leftist ideology ruling over any and all reason if you ask me. Just to put the excoriation of Petraeus in perspective of where it's coming from and who's making those and similar claims against the man.
From Politico in January:
Petraeus has denied passing the documents to Broadwell, and she backs that assertion. Whether Petraeus is guilty or innocent, this leak is as unfair to him as it is predictable. Prosecutors have long leaked like this whenever they can’t make a case against a suspect and hope that a newspaper story will panic him into a plea bargain. The identity of the leakers—and their motivations for leaking—are almost as good a news story as the decision to prosecute. It seems unlikely that Attorney General Eric Holder, who will be leaving the office as soon as his replacement, Loretta Lynch, is confirmed, was behind the leak. Better to speculate that the prosecutors who have been working on the Petraeus case for two years, but don’t really have a case, took the initiative, hoping to score a last scalp as the Holder era fades and their team disbands. Or the leakers could be sending a message to Lynch, saying, “Hey, we’ve got a hot case for you over here.”
...Powerful figures in government shouldn’t be allowed to leak anything they want to leak, nor should Petraeus escape reprimand if he broke his oath to keep secrets secret. You can’t very well let him off the hook and still expect lower-ranking government employees to keep classified information safe. That’s not the message anybody wants to send. But it’s worth asking how secret were the documents in the Petraeus case and what, if any, damage to national security did their leak cause? Did we experience a genuine security lapse in the Petraeus case, or are we merely relearning the lesson that Moynihan taught, that the bureaucracy, determined to cover its ass in advance, classifies way too much material? We don’t really have answers to those questions yet, but we do have glimmers. In November 2012, the Washington Post reported (anonymously sourced again) that Petraeus had assigned aides and military officials to give Broadwell documents, but that the documents had “been described as sensitive but relatively benign. Officials who have been briefed on them said they were mostly schedules and PowerPoint presentations classified as ‘secret.’” Another hint of the innocuous nature of the leaks appeared in a recent Bloomberg View piece. Petraeus has maintained his security clearance ever since the investigation began, it reported, and he has been “casually advising the White House on Iraq.”
In Defense of David Petraeus - Jack Shafer - POLITICO Magazine
You think Snowden did what he did for financial gain? Don't be ridiculous. The difference between Snowden and Petraeus is that the former brought to light the lying, deceit and illegal activities of the NSA, activities that were unconstitutional. He demonstrated how the Director National Intelligence had lied under oath to Congress, that the Chair of the House Intelligence Committee covered up the NSA's illegal data gathering operations. He did a huge service to the American people, yet somehow it's him that's the traitor, and not those committing criminal acts, lying and undermining the democratic processes of the nation.Well, his life was "destroyed" because in part he ran instead of facing the music. Furthermore, he sold information to other nations, some Petraeus did not do. The differences are quite stark. But mostly, you cannot complain that some one struck a deal and the other didn't, when the other has made no effort to strike such a deal and instead ran to another country.
She wrote a ****ing book on it the information given. Are you that daft? Also Petraues should be stripped of his retirement (all $220,000 a year) and benefits as he was an Officer who violated Article 133 and Article 134 and admitted to it..
Our (Americans) worship of him has saved his ass and that's sickening. He violated the UMCJ.
He should have never been admired. He built his image through PR only. Petraeus is a bull**** artist. Americans got conned.
You think Snowden did what he did for financial gain? Don't be ridiculous. The difference between Snowden and Petraeus is that the former brought to light the lying, deceit and illegal activities of the NSA, activities that were unconstitutional. He demonstrated how the Director National Intelligence had lied under oath to Congress, that the Chair of the House Intelligence Committee covered up the NSA's illegal data gathering operations. He did a huge service to the American people, yet somehow it's him that's the traitor, and not those committing criminal acts, lying and undermining the democratic processes of the nation.
The latter had a bit of tail and couldn't control his pillow talk. Neither really strikes me as a traitor, but Snowden should be hailed a hero.
General officers don't leave the military but retire and go inactive. He is still bound to his oath and has all the same benefits of active duty that he had before he retired.At the time of the crime, Petraeus was already retired and no longer in the military
Another criminal gets a wrist slap so obama isn't embarrassed even further. Same thing will be done with berghdal.
You don't understand how the law works. This could have easily been handled as a felony but the prosecutor said no. Why?
Scooter Libby was wrist slapped too! I suppose it didn't bother you that time though.
Hmm... does it bother you the current WH leaked information to the press about the for a favorable film and was never held accountable, and also leaked info about the Bin Laden raid, yet hypocritically doesn't bother to bring the heavy hand of justice against anyone for those things? I find it amusing a partisan would complain about Libby given there were leaks by the WH itself. I guess it's only against the law some of the time but not when Obama's WH does it. :wink:
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