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SO "betrayus" is now in vogue for the kook leftists. :roll: the hypocrisy is sickening.
First Posted: 05-26-09 09:08 AM | Updated: 05-26-09 11:36 AM
In an appearance on Radio Free Europe on Sunday, the man hailed by conservatives as the preeminent military figure of his generation left little room for doubt about where he stands on some of Obama's most contentious policies.
"I think, on balance, that those moves help [us]," said the chief of U.S. Central Command. "In fact, I have long been on record as having testified and also in helping write doctrine for interrogation techniques that are completely in line with the Geneva Convention. And as a division commander in Iraq in the early days, we put out guidance very early on to make sure that our soldiers, in fact, knew that we needed to stay within those guidelines.
"With respect to Guantanamo," Petraeus added, "I think that the closure in a responsible manner, obviously one that is certainly being worked out now by the Department of Justice -- I talked to the Attorney General the other day [and] they have a very intensive effort ongoing to determine, indeed, what to do with the detainees who are left, how to deal with them in a legal way, and if continued incarceration is necessary -- again, how to take that forward. But doing that in a responsible manner, I think, sends an important message to the world, as does the commitment of the United States to observe the Geneva Convention when it comes to the treatment of detainees."
Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture
So here we have the Republicans favorite General endorsing The Presidents plan to close Gitmo. In fact he says "I think, sends an important message to the world, as does the commitment of the United States to observe the Geneva Convention when it comes to the treatment of detainees."
I'm curious to hear what the torture deniers have to say about this Four Star General's comments reguarding closing Gitmo and His Endorsment of President Obama?
Do they still support this troop?
I prefer that he took some time to carefully examine the issue before taking action. Beats the hell out of flying by the seat of our pants as a nation.
Yet he kept it open and his administration eluded that the existence of GITMO and the interrogations taking place their were essential to our national security and removing these things would create a gaping hole of vulnerability for us.
Actions speak louder then words. Obama will realize that soon enough if he fails to take action.
Absolutely. Now that Petraeus is endorsing Obama's closure of Gitmo, is he still going to be looked at as "Betrayus" by Moveon.org?
Just checking on this: does this mean that every time Coulter opens her mouth and says something stupid, I can blame all of you on the right and talk about how you sicken me?
Sorry the Rev got my wound up with his ignorant over generalizations.
My thoughts are that they will no doubt praise him for his endorsement. Though while condemning him for his previous decisions, thank him for finally coming around.
MoveOn is a ludicrous group of individuals.
If you wanna look ridiculous, sure. There's a big difference between forcing a relationship between a single pundit and the entire party and seeing a correlation between a driving economic and activist force within a party.
By Gibberish's own account...3 million. 1 Anne Coulter does not equal 3 million moveon loons.
Just checking on this: does this mean that every time Coulter opens her mouth and says something stupid, I can blame all of you on the right and talk about how you sicken me?
It's not only Patraeus (R's 2012 "dream candidate")who endorses Obama's plan, but it's also the former Secretary of State, General Colin Powell, current Defense Secretary Gates, current Chair of the Joint Chiefs, Mullen....... current and past top military officers.....
Looks like "close air support" with lots of "fruit salad" supporting Obama.
They've all come out within this past week in support of Obama closing GITMO.
That depends; I am sure your notions about what constitutes stupid are much different than mine.
But rather than farcically branding an obviously highly intelligent woman as being stupid, why not debate her claims and show where they could be stupid?
:2wave:
Moveon does not represent the left as a whole, or even a large part. It's basically a lobbying organization, with a few other things thrown in. It is no more the voice of the left, than Coulter is the face of the right. Like I suspect most left wing people, I agree with MoveOn sometimes, disagree sometimes. Like many left wingers, I was pissed at the General Betrayus comment.
I haven't seen MoveOn praise Petraeus yet but of course if he now is in agreement with what MoveOn feels is right then of course they would.
Would you find yourself a hypocrite if you found yourself praising someone for agreeing with you even if you previously attacked them for their previous stance?
That doesn't stop Democrats from claiming that Fox is the official mouthpiece of the GOP. Stop being so disingenuous.MoveOn.org no more represents the Dem party than Fox represents the Repub party.
On those other occasions, it was because Obama was acting exactly like Bush. But in this case, it's because anyone can make a mistake now and then -- even Petraeus.General Petraeus is just the latest military leader to back yet another of Obama's decisions. :2wave:
Fine, having "pointed it out", could we discuss the issue of Petraeus' endorsement of the Obama plan to close Gitmo?
I realize that Conservatives have trouble adapting to changes...even positive changes...but try not to let your unconscious defense mechanism deny thoughts, feelings, or facts that are consciously intolerable to you...like Patraeus speaking the truth. The OP is not about the left dissagreeing with Patraeus during the surge, and agreeing with him now. Right now the man whom the right put on a pedestal as the most "brilliant military mind alive" agrees with Obama, and not with you. And righties can't squirm out of that reality with the "you didn't agree with him in 2007" defense.
There are roughly 28 million registered Democrats in this country. MoveOn represents about 3 million of them. They are hardly the spokesmen for "the left".
What does Moveon.org thinks have to do with Petraeus endorsing Obama? Does what StormFront thinks dictate who those on the right should and should not embrace?
What is "farcical" is that I said when she said something stupid, not that she is stupid, and you twisted that to mean something else.
Hey man, aren't you one of the ones who claim Limbaugh speaks for all conservatives?
But of course, your comments are purely your opinion and do not relate to how the Bush Adminstration actually worked. :2wave:
I find the bolded part amusing; as if Obama will suffer political ramifications for not implementing the radical Left wings agenda. What are they going to do, fire him? Elect a Republican? :rofl
Just checking on this: does this mean that every time Coulter opens her mouth and says something stupid, I can blame all of you on the right and talk about how you sicken me?
Sorry the Rev got my wound up with his ignorant over generalizations.
My thoughts are that they will no doubt praise him for his endorsement. Though while condemning him for his previous decisions, thank him for finally coming around.
MoveOn is a ludicrous group of individuals.
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