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Pete Buttigieg Drops Out of the Presidential Race. Hmmmmmm

Wall Street Pete plays dress up, but he's no adult.

Tulsi's the adult - and the party's best chance - and as such, she was ruthlessly marginalized.

Democrats = Addicted to losing

I actually liked her as well
 
You do and Reps. were asked to vote for Bernie in S. Carolina. I rest my case. Trump and the GOP have based their entire strategy on Bernie being his opponent. Wouldn't it be a shame if they are wrong?

South Carolina primary: Upstate Republicans urge Bernie Sanders support

Well, if the Democrats screw Bernie over as in 2016, it's bye-bye party.

So I kind of DO want them to act like criminals again to get that result.

But I like Bernie - even Crazy 2020 Bernie - and feel he's earned the right to lose to Trump...

...whom he would have beaten in 2016.

But Democrats:

Their own & everyone else's worst enemy.

:shrug:
 
Apparently Amy is announcing her departure tonight endorsing Biden in the process.

Yeah - the DNC is clearing the decks for Biden tomorrow.

Promised her that she would be short-listed as Biden's VP.
 
Well, if the Democrats screw Bernie over as in 2016, it's bye-bye party.

So I kind of DO want them to act like criminals again to get that result.

But I like Bernie - even Crazy 2020 Bernie - and feel he's earned the right to lose to Trump...

...whom he would have beaten in 2016.

But Democrats:

Their own & everyone else's worst enemy.

:shrug:

Actually like everything you say, the opposite is true. You can never go wrong doing the opposite of what you say. No one is screwing anyone over but you. That is what you exist for. At least you admit you like Bernie because he will lose to Trump. That is honest at least.
 
Actually like everything you say, the opposite is true. You can never go wrong doing the opposite of what you say. No one is screwing anyone over but you. That is what you exist for.

Yeah - go with that. :)
 
Apparently Amy is announcing her departure tonight endorsing Biden in the process.

Ahh, boo. I would have taken her over Biden any day. I think the DNC is backing the wrong moderate horse here.
 
Actually like everything you say, the opposite is true. You can never go wrong doing the opposite of what you say. No one is screwing anyone over but you. That is what you exist for. At least you admit you like Bernie because he will lose to Trump. That is honest at least.

Oops - more words.

I like Bernie, period. Your fabricated projection? (Not so much.)
 
Ahh, boo. I would have taken her over Biden any day. I think the DNC is backing the wrong moderate horse here.

Klobuchar = A complete nightmare with no political future
 
Ahh, boo. I would have taken her over Biden any day. I think the DNC is backing the wrong moderate horse here.

I think Amy's inability to pull African American voters to her probably killed her run to the nomination. The moderates went from fractured and appearing unwilling to coalesce around anybody to Amy, Steyer and Pete pulling out AHEAD of Super Tuesday. Amy could be a good VP add to some ticket.

I don't expect Bloomy to do well on Super Tuesday even with all his ad bucks. I expect him to pull out after Super Tuesday and throw his weight behind Biden. Either Bloomy has an ugly Tuesday or Biden does. I don't expect them both left "confused" about the Super Tuesday result.
 
I'm sure a gay man who knows how to spell better than the people who don't want to vote for him but instead will vote for a reality game show host who ruins businesses and lives for a living and can't form a sentence or tell the truth is going to be the final death blow to this once-great country.

Your right, voting for this one undeserving individual will not adversely affect this great nation, causing it to fail but you would do it just to unseat Trump and the hell with the consequences. It is the pattern of the liberal, left leaning socialist party that will undo us. Biden---too old and on occasion senile. Sanders-----one step away from communist. Warren----an arm waving compulsive liar. Bloomberg-----The only thing he is running on is the desire to beat Trump
 
Ahh, boo. I would have taken her over Biden any day. I think the DNC is backing the wrong moderate horse here.

I'm not a democrat and won't vote for any of the ones running but I will say Bloomberg and Klobachar seem to be the most sensible. Biden is too willing to bend in the wind and try to ride Obama's coattail to be his own man. Plus, he seems to get confused a lot.
Democrats are in a pickle with Bernie, they invited the wolf into the chicken house and now they may not be able to get rid of him without the loss of lots of chicks.
 
Your right, voting for this one undeserving individual will not adversely affect this great nation, causing it to fail but you would do it just to unseat Trump and the hell with the consequences. It is the pattern of the liberal, left leaning socialist party that will undo us. Biden---too old and on occasion senile. Sanders-----one step away from communist. Warren----an arm waving compulsive liar. Bloomberg-----The only thing he is running on is the desire to beat Trump

Liberals and many democrats are blinded by the exaggerations of the Press and the democrat leaders. It isn't about our country anymore, it's about democrats wanting power and just can't recover from Hillary loosing. Plain truth hurts.
 
They might, it depends on how the DNC does in Sanders this time.

Last time the Sanders to Trump supporters was a bit baffling. Assuming that they had supported Sanders in earnest, these sorts of folk I doubt would vote for a moderate Democrat. There had to have been some appeal to Sanders to pull them over, but without Sanders, I would doubt that they would still vote Democrat. So, again assuming earnest voting, I'd expect to see the same number therein. Pull some of the Trump supporters over, but those voters would generally not vote for another Democrat.

The gains would be in those Sanders voters who staid home, or those who had voted 3rd party instead. But it is also possible that the DNC does Sanders so wrong that those same folk, by and large, repeat their past performance. I think the Trump danger does play in to this a lot and more people will be far less likely to stay home or vote 3rd party. But it can happen if the DNC pushes their Sanders-hate too far.

We'll see. I don't think that's entirely accurate because 2020 has fewer similarities with 2016 than I think most people think. I was a Sanders voter in the 2016 primary who ended up voting third party in the general because the DNC and Clinton never earned my vote. In fact, they went out of their way to lose it. More than a couple of things factored into that decision that don't apply this year. Namely, I, like most people, did not think that Trump could win. I also underestimated how catastrophically disastrous a Trump presidency would be for the country and the world. I still won't commit to voting for the Democrat until I know who it is, but I am far more motivated to defeat Trump than I was. I have a strong suspicion that there are a lot of people like me.

Additionally, I think the DNC is trying to be better at being awful this time. If Sanders wins the most delegates and then gets railroaded at the convention, the Democrats deserve to lose again. I might even help them lose again. I would rather see Sanders lose to Trump in a "fair" election than the next anointed prop lose to Trump in another election designed by the DNC to be a loser. By consolidating support around Biden now by getting rid of Buttigieg and Klobuchar, they allow an appearance to form that Biden is the nominee who won fair and square. Sucks for Sanders, but since no one in the country can possibly beat Trump except whomever the Democrats nominate, they need to play to win for once.
 
Liberals and many democrats are blinded by the exaggerations of the Press and the democrat leaders. It isn't about our country anymore, it's about democrats wanting power and just can't recover from Hillary loosing. Plain truth hurts.

Dems want to wield power for public good. T-partiers would not know the public good if it hit them over the head attached to a skillet. They are addicted to power just as the old GOP (before T-party) was addicted to power...power mad in fact. That might be OK if they were not so ineffective at government.

The most absurd political take in this country is electing people to run government who do not like government, who in fact despise government. They have no interest in running it. They have interest in using it for their own purposes and then leaving the wreckage for somebody else to clean up assuming they leave enough behind so that it can be cleaned up.

There has been very little gray area in the modern era about where the two parties stand. You either get government from people (mainly Dems) who at least believe in government enough to try to pull the levers of government for the public good or you get people Mainly T-Party, former GOP types) who despise government and even if not corrupt (good luck with that) simply will manage government ineptly, incompetently and irresponsibly. Nobody runs something they despise, competently and responsibly. That dog just won't hunt.
 
Pete Buttigieg drops out of the race. I wonder what kind of dirt he is hiding. There is no way he would just bail at this point. He was running 3rd to Biden and Sanders and just quits?

Me thinks something more sinister is at play.

When do Trumpkins not think Democrats have something sinister at play.
 
So they will support the very party that screws their own candidate for a second time? I don't see it. If they do support the party that continues to s**t can their candidate then they get what they deserve. Allowing the DNC to tell you who you are going to vote for, and then you do it, will get you the same result, over and over.

Its amazing how the party who claims Trump is a dictator, allows their own party to tell them who they will vote for. And they fall in line and do as they are told?

Okay.

That's why they're trying to avoid screwing their own candidate a second time by causing a Sanders defeat to seem fair (see Buttigieg and Klobuchar). They maybe, sort of, kind of learned part of a lesson since 2016.

In this case, it isn't about doing what anyone tells anyone else to do. The Democrats are just as vile as the Republicans are and they always have been. On the other hand, Trump is worse than all of them put together. So while I voted third party in 2016, I am more likely to vote for the Democrat this year, as long as the Democrats don't **** it up as epically as they did last time.
 
Dream on. The good news is this is bad for Sanders. Less splitting of the moderate majority.

? Why is it far-fetched to think Biden wants Pete as his VP? Amy is now on the short list too, I bet.
 
? Why is it far-fetched to think Biden wants Pete as his VP? Amy is now on the short list too, I bet.

Biden would make a mistake to make Pete his VP. His main argument is that he can connect with black people, so to pick someone who is so insensitive to black issues would be the nail in his coffin.
 
Your right, voting for this one undeserving individual will not adversely affect this great nation, causing it to fail but you would do it just to unseat Trump and the hell with the consequences. It is the pattern of the liberal, left leaning socialist party that will undo us. Biden---too old and on occasion senile. Sanders-----one step away from communist. Warren----an arm waving compulsive liar. Bloomberg-----The only thing he is running on is the desire to beat Trump

Wow. That's mighty presumptuous of you. Perhaps you should ask a pre-K teacher to give you a refresher on the pronoun "you". There are lots of ways to address a generalized audience than to pretend like you know what a stranger on the internet thinks, especially when you're not even right about what he thinks. No, I would not support anyone just to unseat Trump. I would support Buttigieg because he deserves to be president and could very probably be a good president. In fact, he was my first choice.
 
St. Pete dropping out won't really matter. I think after tomorrow Bernie will be in the driver's seat. He'll win CA which is the big prize to be had and should be on his way from there. The DNC will have to really cook up something between now and the convention to keep Bernie from becoming the nominee.
 
? Why is it far-fetched to think Biden wants Pete as his VP? Amy is now on the short list too, I bet.

Even though I do like that you make Biden the nominee, I think you are very premature about him picking a VP.
 
Wow. That's mighty presumptuous of you. Perhaps you should ask a pre-K teacher to give you a refresher on the pronoun "you". There are lots of ways to address a generalized audience than to pretend like you know what a stranger on the internet thinks, especially when you're not even right about what he thinks. No, I would not support anyone just to unseat Trump. I would support Buttigieg because he deserves to be president and could very probably be a good president. In fact, he was my first choice.

Pete can't even run a little town like South Bend. He's already proven to be less than competent at governing.
 
Well it seems that Buttigieg is going to be endorsing Biden as well.

Guess they really got the fix in against Bernie well this time.
 
Even though I do like that you make Biden the nominee, I think you are very premature about him picking a VP.

It's just a suspicion, not a declaration.
 
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