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Peole say they need guns to keep them safe from the government

Have we actually had a tyrant? And in your example, they did kill Lincoln.
They? John Wilkes Booth killed Lincoln and said he was a tyrant. Maybe he had a mouse in his pocket, I dont know.
The fact remains that for all the reasons an American needs a gun that resistance of tyranny bullshit just makes the rest of your case weaker by association. It's bullshit, plain and simple, and you lot need to leave it behind.
 
They? John Wilkes Booth killed Lincoln and said he was a tyrant. Maybe he had a mouse in his pocket, I dont know.
The fact remains that for all the reasons an American needs a gun that resistance of tyranny bullshit just makes the rest of your case weaker by association. It's bullshit, plain and simple, and you lot need to leave it behind.
Americans have the right to keep and bear arms for all lawful purposes.
 
I am sorry, but I am a lot more afraid of all of the loony's out there with their AR15's and body armor than I am of the government. I am more afraid of them taking over and enforcing autocratic rule than I am of the government doing so to us. These are the people who broke into the capital to try and overthrow the election/government and had caches of arms hidden around Washington D.C.
Dig yourself a hole and cuddle up with a blankey and teddy bear.
 
Many of the same people that squawk about defending against a tyrannical US government are the same people that love the US military.
That is because a lot of us served in the military. The people in our military are not to be feared. It is the politicians that tell our military what to do is why We the People need to be armed.
 
You would not be saying that if you lived in one of the hundreds of countries where the people do not have guns and are running here tail between their legs for us to protect them. It is the fact we have these guns that keep our government in check unlike Russia.
What nonsense!
 
What about Breonna Taylor?


What about her? Her story wouldn't have even made the national news if she had a gun. Do you think she would have won that gunfight? The headlines would have read "Armed Suspect Killed in Shootout with Police"...
 
I am sorry, but I am a lot more afraid of all of the loony's out there with their AR15's and body armor than I am of the government. I am more afraid of them taking over and enforcing autocratic rule than I am of the government doing so to us. These are the people who broke into the capital to try and overthrow the election/government and had caches of arms hidden around Washington D.C.
You shouldn’t buy a gun, then.
 
It would take a tyrannical government to use military drones and munitions against US citizens. Would you support such tyranny? How would the government even know who to target?

Better hope they aren't targeting your neighbor.

Is it safe to say I hope the government is targeting one of my neighbors? The point is for all the people who own firearms to protect themselves against the government are only kidding themselves. It never turns out good for these types of people. Think ruby ridge and waco. The loudmouths with the guns always lose against the government, always.
 
Trump wanted to use troops against citizens in the streets of DC. I didn't support it then, and don't support it now, but if someone tyrannical did get control of the military, an armed populace won't matter.
Sure the coward cops and ATF did a great job in Texas.
 
Is it safe to say I hope the government is targeting one of my neighbors? The point is for all the people who own firearms to protect themselves against the government are only kidding themselves. It never turns out good for these types of people. Think ruby ridge and waco. The loudmouths with the guns always lose against the government, always.
The ATF got slaughtered at first in Waco
 
How did it work out in the end for the Branch Davidians?
When they brought in an army after the ATF got slaughtered not so well

We are not talking like 15 people with guns we are talking like 120 million people with guns spread out across the United States
 
When they brought in an army after the ATF got slaughtered not so well

We are not talking like 15 people with guns we are talking like 120 million people with guns spread out across the United States

With neighbors, coworkers, etc. who would gladly turn them in at a drop of the hat... Spreading them out makes them EASIER to capture, not harder...
 
With neighbors, coworkers, etc. who would gladly turn them in at a drop of the hat... Spreading them out makes them EASIER to capture, not harder...

Lol you don't know much about the US geographically do you and the first part of your post..




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Why are other countries choosing to send other weapons to the Ukraine? Wouldn't it be smarter to send handguns?
 
Lol you don't know much about the US geographically do you and the first part of your post..




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LMAO.... Will these "patriots" be organized? How will they communicate? Have any idea how easy it is to intercept communications these days? I know it kind of ruins the fantasy but the idea that thousands of "patriots" will somehow rise up with their AR's is fantasy... Hell, I would bet at least 50% of those patriots are already on a list in private hands right now...
 
Why are other countries choosing to send other weapons to the Ukraine? Wouldn't it be smarter to send handguns?

We should be sending knives and baseball bats... These seem to the deadly fallback weapons of choice for our gun lubers...
 
The ATF got slaughtered at first in Waco
Four law enforcement deaths, seventy six branch davidians dead including koresh. Do you think folks who are claiming they own guns to protect themselves from the government would fare any better? I don't.
 
We should be sending knives and baseball bats... These seem to the deadly fallback weapons of choice for our gun lubers...
They probably could use some car wrecks.
 
Why are other countries choosing to send other weapons to the Ukraine? Wouldn't it be smarter to send handguns?
Wow another well college educated post.



LMAO.... Will these "patriots" be organized? How will they communicate? Have any idea how easy it is to intercept communications these days? I know it kind of ruins the fantasy but the idea that thousands of "patriots" will somehow rise up with their AR's is fantasy... Hell, I would bet at least 50% of those patriots are already on a list in private hands right now...
So you saying Obama spied on us citizens like Trump the left vehemently denied?
 
Four law enforcement deaths, seventy six branch davidians dead including koresh. Do you think folks who are claiming they own guns to protect themselves from the government would fare any better? I don't.
They committed suicide by fire
 
When they brought in an army after the ATF got slaughtered not so well

We are not talking like 15 people with guns we are talking like 120 million people with guns spread out across the United States
And you think those 120 million are all like the 'real patriots' who bashed their way into the capitol to 'stop the steal'? Get real.
 
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