The idea behind the terms of the sequester was to make sure everyone would try their best to negotiate their way out of it. That didn't happen. Now it's time to pay the Piper and far too late to bitch.I think before we again start talking about cutting the military, we should hold the governments feet to the fire over fixing entitlements....It's kind of like this whole immigration thing. Fix the border security first then talk about the rest....
True.I am all for cuts to federal spending including the military. The biggest problem with this is that the military won't cut in the right places. The military wastes so much money on useless crap it is unbelievable. I guarantee the military will cut things like unit training funds way before they cut things like generals doing battlefield circulations. Or how about stop sending people to jump school and than continuing to pay those people jump pay when they are not in a job that will ever make a combat jump.
The war in Astan and Iraq were perfect examples of military waste. There were so many high level commands over there soaking up resources when they could have done everything they needed to do conus. With things like SatCom and siper net it dosent matter if you are in the next room or the other side of the world so why deploy them.
I am in a unit that runs pretty high on rank but for the short time I was in BAF I am sure I saw more Cols and CW5s than I normally see in a week. And where there is one Col there is a ton of lower folks supporting him.
Time to go back to making sausage...The idea behind the terms of the sequester was to make sure everyone would try their best to negotiate their way out of it. That didn't happen. Now it's time to pay the Piper and far too late to bitch.
All the manpower in the world is useless without the proper equipment. It takes a good balance of the two or you have nothing.All the equipment in the world is useless without the manpower to use it.
Only if they remain in the militia.I would like everyone to sever, but it isn't practical in our nation.
Do they get to keep their weapon after the two years is up?
I agree completely. If the average person had any idea just how much the military wastes I imagine there would be plenty of outrage. But I guess the exact same thing could be said for the government as a whole. I am just in the Army so I see that first hand.True.
Just like all other bureaucracies. Are there any that don't have waste?
This is why so many of us want the smallest government possible.
I agree completely. If the average person had any idea just how much the military wastes I imagine there would be plenty of outrage. But I guess the exact same thing could be said for the government as a whole. I am just in the Army so I see that first hand.
When the gutter is genocidal dictatorship, you have no point whatsoever.
I think (as a non American) the cuts are manpower cuts to reduce down to pre WW2 levels - not to reduce equipment down to pre WW2 levels.
This graph may help you understand how you're still spending at least as much as the next 14 biggest spenders on the military and that includes Russia and China's budget combined.
Why do you "need" to spend 3 times as much as China and Russia's total yearly expenditure anyway?
This topic is specifically about the Army, where these cuts would not have much of an impact on our ability to provide aid which is mostly done by the Navy and Marine Corps in terms of total volume.
There will always be a genocidal dictator.
No, it was Obama's plan.
There will always be a genocidal dictator.
No army ever won a war acting defensively. You win a war by attacking.
Obama not only let Putin invade Georgia, he praised him for it.
I wouldn't feel to 'safe' if I were you.
I didn't know we started WWII...Then that means you start a war, very bad idea. You don't have to worry about winning a war if you don't attack somebody and start a war.
I was in for 11 years. I have also seen government waste elsewhere. In reality, the military probably wastes less of a percentage of it's money than other government bureaucracies.
How many other government bureaucracies have you seen first hand?
You can expect all kinds of waste during war. Sorry, I get out until after the cold war ended. They replaced my job with civilians since the security levels were no longer needed. I didn't like my choices for MOS changes available, so in '92, I took the $28k bonus to get out. I did see some extra waste during Desert Storm, but wasn't there.Did you ever make it to Iraq or Astan. Those places make all the rest of the waste I have seen the army do look like peanuts.
As to others that I have seen first hand only from some inlaws the awesomeness that is the welfare system.
how about we cut chuck hagels pay, health benefits and retirement. I mean after all a soldier has to serve 20 years for a pension and a congressman 5.
I think we should switch them the solders get the better pay and benefits like hagel gets and hagel if he can make it has to serve 20+ years to get a small pension.
as for pay hagel can get enlisted pay.
I am all for cleaning up the spending going on in the military, but not on the backs of our soldiers.
Being in congress was never meant to be a career. They shouldn't get a pension.
To keep referring to the next generation military equipment as "toys" makes me wonder whether you really do agree with me. Vast technological superiority IS the deterrence I was speaking about. It's not total troops (China and North Korea trounce us), it is the huge gap between US military technology and everyone else.
As for the soldiers pay, it is really a separate issue. Ask the soldier on the front line if he would give up hellfire missile support for an extra $50 in his paycheck.
Yes, paying soldiers more is a noble goal that I support, but not at the cost of technological superiority that helps the US keep those soldiers alive both on the battlefield and by keeping them off the battlefield all together through deterrence.
These aren't "toys".
All the equipment in the world is useless without the manpower to use it.
Partially because we protect our allies that don't spend so much
How much do the people making military equipment in China make vs. our union labor in Boeing et al?
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