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In a major national security speech this spring, President Obama said again and again that the U.S. is at war with “Al Qaeda, the Taliban, and their associated forces.”So who exactly are those associated forces? It’s a secret.
At a hearing in May, Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., asked the Defense Department to provide him with a current list of Al Qaeda affiliates.
The Pentagon responded – but Levin’s office told ProPublica they aren’t allowed to share it. Kathleen Long, a spokeswoman for Levin, would say only that the department’s “answer included the information requested.”
A Pentagon spokesman told ProPublica that revealing such a list could cause “serious damage to national security.”
“Because elements that might be considered ‘associated forces’ can build credibility by being listed as such by the United States, we have classified the list,” said the spokesman, Lt. Col. Jim Gregory. “We cannot afford to inflate these organizations that rely on violent extremist ideology to strengthen their ranks.”
Unfortunately, Lt. Col. Gregory's description of the situation is correct.
The best recruitment tool many of these groups have, is to be able to confirm that they are in our cross-hairs. Giving them the ability to recruit more nut-blades is not in our best interest. Keeping them small and vulnerable is.
Sad... but true none-the-less.
Read more @: Pentagon: Who We're At War With Is Classified
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Please. Engaging them militarily is what is recruiting them.
Not really. Our breathing, and flourishing, and, well, being free (Infidels)... That is what is recruiting them.
Not really. Our breathing, and flourishing, and, well, being free (Infidels)... That is what is recruiting them.
Haha. That's a classic Bush-ism.
So what inspired muslims to travel and fight in Afghanistan against the Soviets and in Bosnia?
Could it be that other muslims were being killed? Hmm...
Tell me you didn't type that with a straight face.
There are numerous countries out there filled with breathing, flourishing, and free infidels. But those countries don't engender their hatred. Could it be because they aren't building bases in Muslim countries and blowing up Muslims by remote control?
I know, it is a crazy theory.
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No. I had a straight face. It was a very narrow description of a very complex issue. For that I cry mea culpa.
True. They are pissed that we have troops on their soil. And yes, it has to do with oil. And yes again, we have been involved in bad things their. But... to limit the description of why they hate us to your description is just as limited an argument.
These people live in a 7th Century society that's still pissed over the Crusades.
As I said, it's a very complex discussion, that no one will ever agree upon. Even the Islamist Extremists can't agree on exactly why they hate us. Hate us today that is. All I ever hear is the transgression du jour. Tomorrow it will be something else. Palestine, Israel, Somalia, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, the Balkans, Indonesia, or some other location around the world that they feel we should get out of.
There are many troops from many countries here in the US. Right now. I don't see people strapping bombs to their chests here and killing women and children to get them out of the US?
We have an economic interest in most countries of the world. Now, if we want to completely change our economy, reduce our personal incomes to the level that many of these other countries population barely survives on, then maybe, just maybe, we could pull out of the world, become a completely protectionist nation, like we tried in the early 1900's, and then see what happens.
Based on my years around the world, I seriously doubt it would make a difference.
Funny how the groups that are demanding that we get out of the world, are the same ones that want their paychecks to be increased and prices reduced. That old Sesame Street song keeps coming to mind... 'One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just doesn't belong..."
Our clandestine and unaccountable government, and the corporate interests they champion, are far more dangerous to the American people than any foreign threat could ever hope to be.
And WE'RE tolerating answers like that from OUR government.
Who's supposed to be the boss(es) in this equation?
And WE'RE tolerating answers like that from OUR government.
Who's supposed to be the boss(es) in this equation?
Not really. Our breathing, and flourishing, and, well, being free (Infidels)... That is what is recruiting them.
Never underestimate the recruitment power of a cultist vein of a religion.
Been to a Pentecostal Holiness Church lately? Scary folks... The only difference is the lack of suicide bombers. But, its early yet. Give them time, you never know?
Read more @: Pentagon: Who We're At War With Is Classified
Apparently these days and age we cant eve know who we are at war with anymore.. Talk about a secret state... [/FONT][/COLOR]
Our clandestine and unaccountable government, and the corporate interests they champion, are far more dangerous to the American people than any foreign threat could ever hope to be.
Tell that to a 9-11 widow!!
Blame the socialists and liberals, they like big powerful secret government.
"Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither."
What's that supposed to mean?
Not really. Our breathing, and flourishing, and, well, being free (Infidels)... That is what is recruiting them.
Never underestimate the recruitment power of a cultist vein of a religion.
As Oliver Stone has put it recently, the question is not "do you have something to hide?", the question is whether we control the government, or the government controls us.
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