Pence Harris Debate Discussion

[Luckyone]

What evidence do you have that this is her goal?

What about the father rights? Half of him is getting aborted right?

What about the child's rights?

If a person can be charged with murder for killing an unborn child still in the womb how can the woman abort the same child without charges?

If you have listening to the people asking questions of her, they presented factual evidence of things she has stated in the past and positions she has defended based on her stated ideals.

 

[Daddyo]

Ok so you believe there should be no gun laws of any kind.


Just be consistent

Some restrictions can be enacted without violating the amendment itself.

For example banning full auto or cannons. The founders wanted the people to bear arms. These arms must be adequate enough to resist a tyrannical government or a foreign attack which was one of the founders reasons for the amendment.

As I already said its a slippery slope. If that balance cannot be found then no restrictions is the constitutional fallback.

 

[Daddyo]

It's not a child

If that was true then the killer couldn't be charged with murder.

Thank god my father doesn't think like you lol. Thank god for my kids that I have the same love for them that my dad has for me. A love that started the minute I found out the wife was pregnant. The child I helped create just amazing.

 

[Daddyo]

Trump has politicized the

close to perfect. TRUMP got Covid and 34 members of the WH! Dude doesn’t respect science or other people he deems a threat to his con game.
You watch this the other night?

Collapsing passengers, CDC missteps and "public health malpractice": The story of the COVID flight from hell

After passengers on the Costa Luminosa cruise ship fell ill with COVID-19 in March, Americans were flown to Atlanta after reaching Europe. Passengers say what happened next was nothing short of a nightmare.

www.cbsnews.com

Trump politicized the issue? Seriously! Trump has been under attack since day one including being attacked for making the single most important decision of the pandemic. The china travel ban was politicized.

All survived covid! So what if they got it? You act as if covid is a death sentence to all who get it.

BTW you need to do your research because masks cannot protect you from airborne virus. Plus the virus can mass on the mask and the constant adjusting we see everyone do contaminates the hands. Then you have contaminated hands near the nose and mouth. Studies are showing that they don't help much.

https://www.rcreader.com/commentary...f-science-relevant-to-covide-19-social-policy

Dare I say trump was right about masks lol. Right yet again!

 

[Daddyo]

2 thousand?



and by the way, a few years ago when this list started to grow, I checked on about 300 of the lies told and though many were either exaggerations or simply mistakes, many of them were total lies or untruths that Trump knew were untruths. When you get to over 20,000 lies, even if you can forgive 90% of them, that still leaves 2,000 outright lies.................more than anyone else.

Keep on lying to yourself. You are doing a disservice to yourself to anyone other that absolute idiots that believe anything told to them.

Since you are such a stickler for truth will you be supporting Biden after all the major lies he has told just this election cycle including the lies that he didnt know hunters business dealings and the QPQ with Shokin was a coincidence? Since we now know he met with burisma folks prior to hunter being hired. Which means hunter was paid for dads influence. Influence Joe used to eliminate and investigation of the company by getting the prosecutor fired.

2 whopper corruption lies here alone.

Also the family members who benefitted from joes influence paid Joe up to 50 percent of their income/take. According to emails in hunters laptop.

Surely someone so concerned about honor and integrity couldn't support such a lying crook as Biden or can you?

 

[Luckyone]

Some restrictions can be enacted without violating the amendment itself.

For example banning full auto or cannons. The founders wanted the people to bear arms. These arms must be adequate enough to resist a tyrannical government or a foreign attack which was one of the founders reasons for the amendment.

As I already said its a slippery slope. If that balance cannot be found then no restrictions is the constitutional fallback.

Why stop at guns? why not allow each person to own tanks or even ICBM missiles. They can all be called weapons for defense of a person!

 

[Luckyone]

Since you are such a stickler for truth will you be supporting Biden after all the major lies he has told just this election cycle including the lies that he didnt know hunters business dealings and the QPQ with Shokin was a coincidence? Since we now know he met with burisma folks prior to hunter being hired. Which means hunter was paid for dads influence. Influence Joe used to eliminate and investigation of the company by getting the prosecutor fired.

2 whopper corruption lies here alone.

Also the family members who benefitted from joes influence paid Joe up to 50 percent of their income/take. According to emails in hunters laptop.

Surely someone so concerned about honor and integrity couldn't support such a lying crook as Biden or can you?

As I have often stated, this election is not about supporting Biden but about getting Trump out versus anything less bad than he is. In this case, I would support a cockroach over Trump.

Then again and talking about Biden specifically. Biden is no worse than any normal politician. In fact, he is better than most. Biden has heart, has empathy and has a clear set of morals, ethics, principles and more importantly humanity. None of which Trump has.

Yes he is old, yes he is starting to get senile, yes, he is not the most intelligent or capable man around. He may even have a tiny bit of corruption in him (who doesn't?). Then again, compared to Trump he is lemon compared to poison.

Burisma? He was not involved. His son was and therefore you cannot pin that on him and to a certain degree not even on Hunter given that he was offered a high paying job where he didn't have to do anything other than being a doorway to the administration in charge. You would not have accepted such a job?

You approve of Capitalism but then denigrate it when it is against what you want? Pure hypocrisy. By the way, how come you do not criticize Trump when he united himself with the Bayrock Group and those Russian oligarchs paid him 2 and 3 times the value for his properties and lent him money when no other banks in the world would? That was NOT Trump's son that did that, it was Trump himself. That is corruption to the nth degree and out in the open.

How dare you criticize Biden with all of this being done by Trump?

 

[US&THEM]

Trump politicized the issue? Seriously! Trump has been under attack since day one including being attacked for making the single most important decision of the pandemic. The china travel ban was politicized.

All survived covid! So what if they got it? You act as if covid is a death sentence to all who get it.

BTW you need to do your research because masks cannot protect you from airborne virus. Plus the virus can mass on the mask and the constant adjusting we see everyone do contaminates the hands. Then you have contaminated hands near the nose and mouth. Studies are showing that they don't help much.

https://www.rcreader.com/commentary...f-science-relevant-to-covide-19-social-policy

Dare I say trump was right about masks lol. Right yet again!

Wow, ok.

 

[vegas giants]

If that was true then the killer couldn't be charged with murder.

Thank god my father doesn't think like you lol. Thank god for my kids that I have the same love for them that my dad has for me. A love that started the minute I found out the wife was pregnant. The child I helped create just amazing.

Read the law. It specifically exempts abortion. So you tell me how that works. It's a stupid law

Thank god my kids have me as a father and not someone like you

 

[vegas giants]

Some restrictions can be enacted without violating the amendment itself.

For example banning full auto or cannons. The founders wanted the people to bear arms. These arms must be adequate enough to resist a tyrannical government or a foreign attack which was one of the founders reasons for the amendment.

As I already said its a slippery slope. If that balance cannot be found then no restrictions is the constitutional fallback.

Then you do not follow founders intent. The founders never banned cannons to anyone.

You believe in a living constitution

 

[Daddyo]

If you have listening to the people asking questions of her, they presented factual evidence of things she has stated in the past and positions she has defended based on her stated ideals.

Stating that you are pro life isn't a problem as long as you check that in at the door and simply interpret the constitution as written. She already admitted that she and her mentor Scalia believe that to be a good justice you must dislike the verdict from time to time.

This is precisely the reason I prefer constitutionalist justices over living breathing, make crap up to fit your own personal beliefs, justices.....like RBG.

 

[Daddyo]

Read the law. It specifically exempts abortion. So you tell me how that works. It's a stupid law

Thank god my kids have me as a father and not someone like you

Says the guy who says he wouldn't care about the tissue growing inside his girls body lol.

If you are half the father I am your kids are lucky to have you. I mean that in a true and sarcastic way lol.

 

[Daddyo]

Then you do not follow founders intent. The founders never banned cannons to anyone.

You believe in a living constitution

Disagree.

 

[vegas giants]

Disagree.

Dont care

 

[vegas giants]

Says the guy who says he wouldn't care about the tissue growing inside his girls body lol.

If you are half the father I am your kids are lucky to have you. I mean that in a true and sarcastic way lol.

Opinion noted and dismissed

 

[Luckyone]

Stating that you are pro life isn't a problem as long as you check that in at the door and simply interpret the constitution as written. She already admitted that she and her mentor Scalia believe that to be a good justice you must dislike the verdict from time to time.

This is precisely the reason I prefer constitutionalist justices over living breathing, make crap up to fit your own personal beliefs, justices.....like RBG.

Well, here is where I disagree with you 150%. RBG to me was the top justice of all times and you saying that she was pushing her personal beliefs based on what is human and not just American Constitution, is what it is all about. We are all human before we are Americans. The human race takes precedence.

I have to say that talking to you recently has opened my eyes to the kind of person you seem to be and it is not a pretty picture.

 

[Daddyo]

Why stop at guns? why not allow each person to own tanks or even ICBM missiles. They can all be called weapons for defense of a person!

People do own tanks and missiles albeit not icbm's.

 

[Daddyo]

As I have often stated, this election is not about supporting Biden but about getting Trump out versus anything less bad than he is. In this case, I would support a cockroach over Trump.

Then again and talking about Biden specifically. Biden is no worse than any normal politician. In fact, he is better than most. Biden has heart, has empathy and has a clear set of morals, ethics, principles and more importantly humanity. None of which Trump has.

Yes he is old, yes he is starting to get senile, yes, he is not the most intelligent or capable man around. He may even have a tiny bit of corruption in him (who doesn't?). Then again, compared to Trump he is lemon compared to poison.

Burisma? He was not involved. His son was and therefore you cannot pin that on him and to a certain degree not even on Hunter given that he was offered a high paying job where he didn't have to do anything other than being a doorway to the administration in charge. You would not have accepted such a job?

You approve of Capitalism but then denigrate it when it is against what you want? Pure hypocrisy. By the way, how come you do not criticize Trump when he united himself with the Bayrock Group and those Russian oligarchs paid him 2 and 3 times the value for his properties and lent him money when no other banks in the world would? That was NOT Trump's son that did that, it was Trump himself. That is corruption to the nth degree and out in the open.

How dare you criticize Biden with all of this being done by Trump?

Biden has morals, ethics, principles, and humanity? What a bunch of garbage!

Biden is a racist! Kamala agreed with this BTW!
Biden is a rapist! Kamala agreed with this also!
Biden sold his office to the highest bidder!
Biden put money over his duty and country!
Biden is a creeper....I added this one because of his hair sniffing and child groping!
Biden is demented!

Finally Biden is lying to our faces to get elected! He is hiding his true agenda to fool the American people into thinking he is something he isn't. Just look how he has fooled you lol.

 

[Daddyo]

Trump talks rough. Trump embellishes stuff. Perhaps he isn't the perfect, politician like, presidential vessel. However if you simply look unbiasedly at what he has done for America pre covid AND how he has handled the pandemic, the guy has a knack for making the correct decisions. The pre covid economy was amazing. As a business owner I saw my numbers grow over past growth levels. His foreign policy amazing. Look at N Korea, the Middle East peace deals etc. He is correcting trade and tariff imbalances. He is bringing back manufacturing. The guy is just good.

I'll leave it with this......as bad as he is personally he is that good actually! He is the doctor House of presidents.

 

[Luckyone]

Biden has morals, ethics, principles, and humanity? What a bunch of garbage!

Biden is a racist! Kamala agreed with this BTW!
Biden is a rapist! Kamala agreed with this also!
Biden sold his office to the highest bidder!
Biden put money over his duty and country!
Biden is a creeper....I added this one because of his hair sniffing and child groping!
Biden is demented!

Finally Biden is lying to our faces to get elected! He is hiding his true agenda to fool the American people into thinking he is something he isn't. Just look how he has fooled you lol.

What sick and demented and totally wrong ideas you have. Talking to a person that believes the worst of Biden but then supports exactly the same things he criticizes of Biden in Trump is not someone that is worth talking with. Even I, who absolutely detests Trump even more that evidently you do in Biden, have made every effort to evaluate/study/find out facts and truths about Trump. I fully know Trump from all his actions, his words, his history. You cannot back up any of your statements with facts. They are all opinion. Your evaluation of Biden is full of fact holes.

I have no desire to continue debating with you. Blind by choice people are what I hate the most in life. I have worked very hard in my life to gain real and true knowledge and ignorance and me is like oil and water, I don't mix at all.

Good-bye

 

[tres borrachos]

Let me try yet again to educate you sir. Since you claim to have a working brain.

Biden said he would repeal trumps tax cuts!

Those tax cuts saved me thousands!

I dont make anywhere near 400k!

So this means my taxes will go up of he does what he said he would!

Now he also claims noone making over 400k will see an increase.

So which one is the lie?

Thanks for playing!

He has also stated that he will raise the corporate tax rate from 23 to 28 percent. I hope your working brain understands that this in an increase. I hope that same brain understands that raising that rate 5 percent raises the rate 5 percent for all corporations including those making less than 400k.

Trump has said multiple times that he wants to repeal and replace obamacare. He has also stated that the replacement must include preexisting condition coverage. Stop parroting the lies you are being fed by your masters.

For the clueless among us (you know who you are), Biden has publicly promised to not raise taxes on anyone making under $400,000.

Try paying attention for once.

 

[Daddyo]

Dont care

Agree lol

 

[Daddyo]

Well, here is where I disagree with you 150%. RBG to me was the top justice of all times and you saying that she was pushing her personal beliefs based on what is human and not just American Constitution, is what it is all about. We are all human before we are Americans. The human race takes precedence.

I have to say that talking to you recently has opened my eyes to the kind of person you seem to be and it is not a pretty picture.

Sorry that you get that picture knowing so much about me and all lol.

Unfortunately a justices job is to interpret the constitution and not to allow personal feelings or humanity or anything else influence their judgment. RBG basically legislated from the bench. A non elected person making law constitutional that was not constitutional.

Question how can government force a citizen to purchase something they don't want? Which amendment gives government that right? To force me to pay for a product that I have decided NOT to purchase?

How can government force me to pay for a procedure that is contrary to my religious beliefs and as such means I'm contributing to sin?

Just a couple of RBG rulings that I remember.

 

[Daddyo]

What sick and demented and totally wrong ideas you have. Talking to a person that believes the worst of Biden but then supports exactly the same things he criticizes of Biden in Trump is not someone that is worth talking with. Even I, who absolutely detests Trump even more that evidently you do in Biden, have made every effort to evaluate/study/find out facts and truths about Trump. I fully know Trump from all his actions, his words, his history. You cannot back up any of your statements with facts. They are all opinion. Your evaluation of Biden is full of fact holes.

I have no desire to continue debating with you. Blind by choice people are what I hate the most in life. I have worked very hard in my life to gain real and true knowledge and ignorance and me is like oil and water, I don't mix at all.

Good-bye

The difference between me and you is that I dont give a crap about the personality stuff. Trump is not favorable personally. He is an asshole at times. He is however spectacular as a leader. He has fought for this country and put us first. His policy has expanded the economy and strengthened our country. His Supreme Court justices have been constitutionalists. So I back trump for his actions to better this country.

Biden OTHO pushes policy that is contrary to my views and bad for our country. I dont care that he is a racist. Proof you say......he was against desegrigating schools and said black kids entering white schools would turn them into racial jungles. His mentor was a KKK grand Kleagle. There is much more.

I dont care that he is a rapist. Kamala harris said that she believed biden accuser. I wasn't there. But kamala, who has more knowledge than I do, said he did it.

I DO care that Biden sold his office to the highest bidder. My proof is hunters laptop emails saying that daddy got a percentage of sons money. Son got paid for access to daddy. In one case we know joe got Shokin fired. We know know he was paid thru hunter by burisma who Shokin was investigating. There are many other dealings with Russian and china. Joe sold us out for money. In other words he gave our enemies some favorable treatment in exchange for money. The Russian mayors wife didn't give hunter lots of money because he smokes a good crack pipe now did she. There was a reason.

My demented comment wasn't to bash biden. He is suffering from dementia. My mother and aunt suffer from it. Its personal to me. Its sad actually. Proof is in his public appearances. He has many of the characteristics.

Hair sniffing.......you tube is full of them. The satisfaction in his face when he buries his nose into a womans hair is amazing. Like a skin flick climax scene or something. Creepy as heck.

he also nibbled his wife's finger as she pointed behind her and got her hand within his range lolhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bu...r-in-bizarre-campaign-stop-moment-2019-11?amp

There is so much bad and creepy about Joe. I agree that trump is far from perfect. Most if not all of trumps bad came as a private citizen. ALL OF JOES BAD HAS COME AS A PUBLIC SERVANT! That's the difference.

I understand you running away. Trying to defend Biden wouldnt be easy. Kinda got you in checkmate mate.

 

[Daddyo]

For the clueless among us (you know who you are), Biden has publicly promised to not raise taxes on anyone making under $400,000.

Try paying attention for once.

Biden also said he would repeal trumps tax cuts publicly! I make much less than 400k. Those tax cuts saved me thousands! Are you paying attention?

So which is it?

I love how gullible you liberals are. How little your know about many issues yet how forceful and even sarcastic you claim we are on the issues. Laughable.

BTW I already know the answer. Biden is lying. The Wallstreet journal said the less than 400k claim is wrong. So either way he is lying.