mistermain
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mistermain said:So it seems as though the majority of people believe punishment for these people should be very harsh. Why then is our law so lax on this issue? What sick bastards believe these people deserve a second chance?
mistermain said:So it seems as though the majority of people believe punishment for these people should be very harsh. Why then is our law so lax on this issue? What sick bastards believe these people deserve a second chance?
Just wanted to get some feedback from you guys on your thoughts on child molestors. My personal opinion is that they should be imprisoned, and not see the light of day on their first offense. Another option is casteration for male offenders, which would save a lot of tax dollars (but does not eliminate the chance of a second offense). Anyway, some may see my view as harsh, but it doesn't seem as though these people can be rehabilitated.
I'd like an "L", please...
Pat Sajak - "Two "L"s...would you like to solve or spin?"
acm2117 said:You people are so misguided. Sex offenders have the next to lowest if not the lowest recidivism rate of any so called violent felony. For anybody interested in facts and not the emotional broohaha drummed up by the mediaI would suggest going to http://www.sohopeful.org . Castration after a first offense would be like chopping of a hand for a first offense of assault or theft. Pedophilia is a mental disorder and cannot be controlled by the lack of testosterone. What would you have done with female pedophiles? Rip their ovaries out? Like most of you my first instinct would be to pin them up against a wall and shoot them, but as a libertarian and someone that is a currently registered sex offender that was convicted as a juvenile, I can understand more than most people what kind of situation they are in and can see the wrong in this.
Agreed. It is the gaming of the system by unethical defense lawyers and lazy (and/or incompetent) prosecutors that destroys the integrity of the system. And if that isn't enough, we can always count on the ACLU (American Criminal Liberties Union) to step in and mess things up further. Objection! by Nancy Grace makes your very point.mixedmedia said:Here in Florida there is a minimum of life in prison for a first offense of sexual molestation involving any form of bodily penetration on a child under the age of eight. I have some experience with this, most unfortunately. The problem is that lawyers make deals to modify the charges to a lesser offense (because very often, for many reasons, the charges are hard to prove), thus these people get out and do it again. I always wondered how it was that these guys were always getting back out onto the streets. Now I know. The laws are not necessarily lax. It is the bargaining for their lives that allows them to go free. Look at your local sex offenders list and see how many of these people are indeed free and living in your area. It blew my mind when I checked mine.
acm2117 said:You people are so misguided. Sex offenders have the next to lowest if not the lowest recidivism rate of any so called violent felony. For anybody interested in facts and not the emotional broohaha drummed up by the mediaI would suggest going to http://www.sohopeful.org . Castration after a first offense would be like chopping of a hand for a first offense of assault or theft. Pedophilia is a mental disorder and cannot be controlled by the lack of testosterone. What would you have done with female pedophiles? Rip their ovaries out? Like most of you my first instinct would be to pin them up against a wall and shoot them, but as a libertarian and someone that is a currently registered sex offender that was convicted as a juvenile, I can understand more than most people what kind of situation they are in and can see the wrong in this.
Mental disorder my fcuking arse. That's a disgusting thing to say. Not only is it insulting to those with real mental illnesses, it's insulting to the victims of paedophiles - and it's an attempt to make what they do acceptable. What did you do, hmm? Scum aren't the authority on scum, you know.
I am not attempting to make pedophilia acceptable. Pedophiles need to be punished, but in reality pedophiles are few in number and what they need is treatment. I was convicted of aggravated sexual assault just after i turned 16 in juvenile court through a plea of guilty, there was no plea bargain involved. I do not consider myself scum. I did what i did once and have never commited another offense remotely like it in the six years since. what i did was appalling and i was punished for it with eight months in a residential treatment center where i only saw my parents three or four times, i was on probation till i turned 18. luckily now i have all of my civil rights back now except for one, my right to privacy due to a legislative oversight. I must register w/ my local police dept. as a sex offender and have my information in the public view though through a change in legislation enacted while i was on probation juvies convicted as little as six months after me do not have their info open to the public. my experiences give me a uniqueview on the situation. yes there are people that cannot be rehabed. just because someone commits a sex crime against a minor does not mean they are a pedophile, the might not have neccesarily done the act because they are attracted to the children. If someone came to my house to chemically or phiysically castrate me they would have a hell of a gunfight on their hands because i feel that would severely violate my civil rights and would not stand for it because i have paid my debt to society and my victim and have moved past that.vergiss said:Mental disorder my fcuking arse. That's a disgusting thing to say. Not only is it insulting to those with real mental illnesses, it's insulting to the victims of paedophiles - and it's an attempt to make what they do acceptable. What did you do, hmm? Scum aren't the authority on scum, you know.
Chemical castration for the first offence, physical for all subsequent offences. If it only stops one child from having his or her life destroyed, it's bloody well worth it.
acm2117 said:I am not attempting to make pedophilia acceptable. Pedophiles need to be punished, but in reality pedophiles are few in number and what they need is treatment. I was convicted of aggravated sexual assault just after i turned 16 in juvenile court through a plea of guilty, there was no plea bargain involved. I do not consider myself scum. I did what i did once and have never commited another offense remotely like it in the six years since.
acm2117 said:I am not attempting to make pedophilia acceptable. Pedophiles need to be punished, but in reality pedophiles are few in number and what they need is treatment. I was convicted of aggravated sexual assault just after i turned 16 in juvenile court through a plea of guilty, there was no plea bargain involved. I do not consider myself scum. I did what i did once and have never commited another offense remotely like it in the six years since. what i did was appalling and i was punished for it with eight months in a residential treatment center where i only saw my parents three or four times, i was on probation till i turned 18. luckily now i have all of my civil rights back now except for one, my right to privacy due to a legislative oversight. I must register w/ my local police dept. as a sex offender and have my information in the public view though through a change in legislation enacted while i was on probation juvies convicted as little as six months after me do not have their info open to the public. my experiences give me a uniqueview on the situation. yes there are people that cannot be rehabed. just because someone commits a sex crime against a minor does not mean they are a pedophile, the might not have neccesarily done the act because they are attracted to the children. If someone came to my house to chemically or phiysically castrate me they would have a hell of a gunfight on their hands because i feel that would severely violate my civil rights and would not stand for it because i have paid my debt to society and my victim and have moved past that.
mistermain said:So it seems as though the majority of people believe punishment for these people should be very harsh. Why then is our law so lax on this issue? What sick bastards believe these people deserve a second chance?
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