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peak-oil is nonsense

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Of course it is. Anyway, we don't here a lot of this nonsense today.

But is it bogus, because we vert simply never can rin out of oil!

Again, we are manipulated inot the belief of scarcity.
 

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Peak oil IS nonsense, but like everything else you post, you simply made the declaration and presented no evidence at all. Any agreement between what you say and reality is purely random happenstance.
 

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Peak oil IS nonsense, but like everything else you post, you simply made the declaration and presented no evidence at all. Any agreement between what you say and reality is purely random happenstance.

I just started.

But why, according you you, is peak oil nonsense?
 

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I just started.

But why, according you you, is peak oil nonsense?

It's your thread, dude. Let's see your evidence. "Just started" is an interesting excuse considering the hours in between your original post and this one.
 

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Noted once again. Another opinion thread started by Pin without any sources to back up what is stated. I expect this thread to be like all the others. Nothing but nonsense from the OP.

an interesting statement from the OP of , " because we vert simply never can rin out of oil!' which I believe was meant to say "we very simply never can run out of oil"

Pin. what is your source of this insight. Provide the link(s).
 

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Noted once again. Another opinion thread started by Pin without any sources to back up what is stated. I expect this thread to be like all the others. Nothing but nonsense from the OP.

an interesting statement from the OP of , " because we vert simply never can rin out of oil!' which I believe was meant to say "we very simply never can run out of oil"

Pin. what is your source of this insight. Provide the link(s).

well here is the first one, Ian Crane has worked in the oil-industry.

 

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SUSTAINABLE OIL?



About 80 miles off of the coast of Louisiana lies a mostly submerged mountain, the top of which is known as Eugene Island. The portion underwater is an eerie-looking, sloping tower jutting up from the depths of the Gulf of Mexico, with deep fissures and perpendicular faults which spontaneously spew natural gas. A significant reservoir of crude oil was discovered nearby in the late ’60s, and by 1970, a platform named Eugene 330 was busily producing about 15,000 barrels a day of high-quality crude oil.
By the late ’80s, the platform’s production had slipped to less than 4,000 barrels per day, and was considered pumped out. Done. Suddenly, in 1990, production soared back to 15,000 barrels a day, and the reserves which had been estimated at 60 million barrels in the ’70s, were recalculated at 400 million barrels. Interestingly, the measured geological age of the new oil was quantifiably different than the oil pumped in the ’70s.
Analysis of seismic recordings revealed the presence of a “deep fault” at the base of the Eugene Island reservoir which was gushing up a river of oil from some deeper and previously unknown source.
Similar results were seen at other Gulf of Mexico oil wells. Similar results were found in the Cook Inlet oil fields in Alaska. Similar results were found in oil fields in Uzbekistan. Similarly in the Middle East, where oil exploration and extraction have been under way for at least the last 20 years, known reserves have doubled. Currently there are somewhere in the neighborhood of 680 billion barrels of Middle East reserve oil.
Creating that much oil would take a big pile of dead dinosaurs and fermenting prehistoric plants. Could there be another source for crude oil?
An intriguing theory now permeating oil company research staffs suggests that crude oil may actually be a natural inorganic product, not a stepchild of unfathomable time and organic degradation. The theory suggests there may be huge, yet-to-be-discovered reserves of oil at depths that dwarf current world estimates.
The theory is simple: Crude oil forms as a natural inorganic process which occurs between the mantle and the crust, somewhere between 5 and 20 miles deep. The proposed mechanism is as follows:


  • Methane (CH4) is a common molecule found in quantity throughout our solar system – huge concentrations exist at great depth in the Earth.
  • At the mantle-crust interface, roughly 20,000 feet beneath the surface, rapidly rising streams of compressed methane-based gasses hit pockets of high temperature causing the condensation of heavier hydrocarbons. The product of this condensation is commonly known as crude oil.
  • Some compressed methane-based gasses migrate into pockets and reservoirs we extract as “natural gas.”
  • In the geologically “cooler,” more tectonically stable regions around the globe, the crude oil pools into reservoirs.
  • In the “hotter,” more volcanic and tectonically active areas, the oil and natural gas continue to condense and eventually to oxidize, producing carbon dioxide and steam, which exits from active volcanoes.
  • Periodically, depending on variations of geology and Earth movement, oil seeps to the surface in quantity, creating the vast oil-sand deposits of Canada and Venezuela, or the continual seeps found beneath the Gulf of Mexico and Uzbekistan.
  • Periodically, depending on variations of geology, the vast, deep pools of oil break free and replenish existing known reserves of oil.


More here:


Sustainable oil?









ah well, it shows once again how we are drowning in BIG HUGE LIES.
 

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ah well, it shows once again how we are drowning in BIG HUGE LIES.

From your source , "If Dr. Gold and Dr. Kenney are correct, this “the end of the world as we know it” scenario simply won’t happen
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2004/05/24777/#o8UctKjkzM0gA5j3.99"

You do realize that the proposed findings has not been proven. That is why the article stated IF Dr. Gold... are correct".

Would be great if they are correct, but don't hold your breath.
 

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From your source , "If Dr. Gold and Dr. Kenney are correct, this “the end of the world as we know it” scenario simply won’t happen
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2004/05/24777/#o8UctKjkzM0gA5j3.99"

You do realize that the proposed findings has not been proven. That is why the article stated IF Dr. Gold... are correct".

Would be great if they are correct, but don't hold your breath.

bit selective now, aren't we?
 

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bit selective now, aren't we?

Hey, it was your source not mine. Guess you don't read info you post.

If you did you would have caught the "if" statement.
 

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SUSTAINABLE OIL?



About 80 miles off of the coast of Louisiana lies a mostly submerged mountain, the top of which is known as Eugene Island. The portion underwater is an eerie-looking, sloping tower jutting up from the depths of the Gulf of Mexico, with deep fissures and perpendicular faults which spontaneously spew natural gas. A significant reservoir of crude oil was discovered nearby in the late ’60s, and by 1970, a platform named Eugene 330 was busily producing about 15,000 barrels a day of high-quality crude oil.
By the late ’80s, the platform’s production had slipped to less than 4,000 barrels per day, and was considered pumped out. Done. Suddenly, in 1990, production soared back to 15,000 barrels a day, and the reserves which had been estimated at 60 million barrels in the ’70s, were recalculated at 400 million barrels. Interestingly, the measured geological age of the new oil was quantifiably different than the oil pumped in the ’70s.
Analysis of seismic recordings revealed the presence of a “deep fault” at the base of the Eugene Island reservoir which was gushing up a river of oil from some deeper and previously unknown source.
Similar results were seen at other Gulf of Mexico oil wells. Similar results were found in the Cook Inlet oil fields in Alaska. Similar results were found in oil fields in Uzbekistan. Similarly in the Middle East, where oil exploration and extraction have been under way for at least the last 20 years, known reserves have doubled. Currently there are somewhere in the neighborhood of 680 billion barrels of Middle East reserve oil.
Creating that much oil would take a big pile of dead dinosaurs and fermenting prehistoric plants. Could there be another source for crude oil?
An intriguing theory now permeating oil company research staffs suggests that crude oil may actually be a natural inorganic product, not a stepchild of unfathomable time and organic degradation. The theory suggests there may be huge, yet-to-be-discovered reserves of oil at depths that dwarf current world estimates.
The theory is simple: Crude oil forms as a natural inorganic process which occurs between the mantle and the crust, somewhere between 5 and 20 miles deep. The proposed mechanism is as follows:



  • Methane (CH4) is a common molecule found in quantity throughout our solar system – huge concentrations exist at great depth in the Earth.
  • At the mantle-crust interface, roughly 20,000 feet beneath the surface, rapidly rising streams of compressed methane-based gasses hit pockets of high temperature causing the condensation of heavier hydrocarbons. The product of this condensation is commonly known as crude oil.
  • Some compressed methane-based gasses migrate into pockets and reservoirs we extract as “natural gas.”
  • In the geologically “cooler,” more tectonically stable regions around the globe, the crude oil pools into reservoirs.
  • In the “hotter,” more volcanic and tectonically active areas, the oil and natural gas continue to condense and eventually to oxidize, producing carbon dioxide and steam, which exits from active volcanoes.
  • Periodically, depending on variations of geology and Earth movement, oil seeps to the surface in quantity, creating the vast oil-sand deposits of Canada and Venezuela, or the continual seeps found beneath the Gulf of Mexico and Uzbekistan.
  • Periodically, depending on variations of geology, the vast, deep pools of oil break free and replenish existing known reserves of oil.



More here:

ah well, it shows once again how we are drowning in BIG HUGE LIES.

This is how continental drift works. All the plates are really floating in a global ocean of oil, allowing them to move easily across the face of the real world, which is a giant ball of string.
 

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Hey, it was your source not mine. Guess you don't read info you post.

If you did you would have caught the "if" statement.

sure.
 
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