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Paul Ryan: the States should decide on Marijuana

AliHajiSheik said:
I disagree, if it is medical, the FDA should be the governing agency and it should be legal. The states should control where it is used in the same way they do for cigarettes or any other smoke product.
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The state should be in control of whether things are legal in that state, medical or not. The FDA should not be federal, but state regulated.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
I disagree, if it is medical, the FDA should be the governing agency and it should be legal. The states should control where it is used in the same way they do for cigarettes or any other smoke product.
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Thats right just like any other controlled substance...should be go to the doctor get a medical reason for the prescription...have it fully under the fda like any other DRUG...legal weed is bs anyway
 
it should be fully legal for adults nationwide, as alcohol is. the war on pot is a hopeless failure, and it's a pointless waste of limited resources.

we have tried neoprohibition for long enough. it's time to try something else.
 
Indeed said:
The state should be in control of whether things are legal in that state, medical or not. The FDA should not be federal, but state regulated.
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I would generally agree, but FDA governed items would be too involved for the individual states to manage. Having national standards isn't a bad thing.
 
lpast said:
Thats right just like any other controlled substance...should be go to the doctor get a medical reason for the prescription...have it fully under the fda like any other DRUG...legal weed is bs anyway
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The FDA governs more things than just controlled substances. They also deal with food ingredients and labelling. Again, having standards is a good thing, safety and all that. Just don't smoke it around me, please.
 
Whoaaaah Duuuude!!!!
 
Helix said:
it should be fully legal for adults nationwide, as alcohol is. the war on pot is a hopeless failure, and it's a pointless waste of limited resources.

we have tried neoprohibition for long enough. it's time to try something else.
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I agree, and can you imagine how many illegals it would put to work? We would have thousands of acres planted in Pot. A new boom industry for the illegals
 
Born Free said:
I agree, and can you imagine how many illegals it would put to work? We would have thousands of acres planted in Pot. A new boom industry for the illegals
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aside from your attempt at cynical sarcasm, i see several real benefits.

1. increased tax revenue. if taxed as cigarettes currently are, that's another 16 billion dollars a year federally.

2. employment at all stages of production.

3. phillip morris can sell a non-fatal product.

4. lower jail and prison populations

5. lower number of people with a criminal record who are basically unemployable because they fail a background check.

6. less tax dollars spent on useless marijuana prohibition.
 
Helix said:
aside from your attempt at cynical sarcasm, i see several real benefits.

1. increased tax revenue. if taxed as cigarettes currently are, that's another 16 billion dollars a year federally.

2. employment at all stages of production.

3. phillip morris can sell a non-fatal product.

4. lower jail and prison populations

5. lower number of people with a criminal record who are basically unemployable because they fail a background check.

6. less tax dollars spent on useless marijuana prohibition.
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Listen, I think pot should be legalized across this country. And I think all the items you mentioned are good as well. As to growing it, California would be the biggest grower and employ the most farm workers. Legalizing pot is all good in so many ways.
 
Just one more reason NOT TO vote for Romney/Paul in November.
 
legal or not....one of the first things I am going to do once I retire is roll and smoke me a fatty and get high high high
 
Born Free said:
Listen, I think pot should be legalized across this country. And I think all the items you mentioned are good as well. As to growing it, California would be the biggest grower and employ the most farm workers. Legalizing pot is all good in so many ways.
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my apologies for misinterpreting your initial post as sarcasm.
 
cpwill said:
Saw this the other day.

Paul Ryan: Let States Decide on Medical Marijuana - National Review Online
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I didn't watch the video (such videos usually don't play very well on my computer, and beside that, even when they do play well, I find watching videos to be a very inefficient and ineffective way of obtaining information, compare to reading a written summary) so I don't know what his underlying reasoning is, but I absolutely agree with the stated conclusion.

Nowhere in the Constitution is the federal government granted any authority whatsoever over drugs, therefore, per the Tenth Amendment, the federal government has no authority whatsoever over drugs. This authority belongs exclusively to the states.

If one state wants to allow the production, sale, possession, and use of marijuana within its borders, then that state absolutely has this right. If another state wants to totally ban the production, sale, possession, and use of marijuana within its borders, then that state absolutely has this right. In neither case does the federal government have any legitimate authority to interfere.

Consider that back in the 1910s, when there was a strong movement to ban alcohol nationwide, it was clearly understood that no authority existed to do so, and that the only way that such a ban could legitimately be put into effect nationwide was to amend the Constitution, in order to give this authority to the federal government, hence the Eighteenth Amendment. Likewise, the only legitimate way that marijuana can be banned or permitted at the national level would be to amend the Constitution in the same manner, to establish a federal authority regarding it. In the absence of such an Amendment, it's none of the federal government's business.
 
Helix said:
my apologies for misinterpreting your initial post as sarcasm.
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Yes I was being a little sarcastic, but you have to admit it would help the illegal farm labor, which I would much rather do with legal farm labor.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
The FDA governs more things than just controlled substances. They also deal with food ingredients and labelling. Again, having standards is a good thing, safety and all that. Just don't smoke it around me, please.
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Maybe I didnt make it clear...Im against medical marihuana or any legalization of it
 
Born Free said:
Yes I was being a little sarcastic, but you have to admit it would help the illegal farm labor, which I would much rather do with legal farm labor.
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immigration is a separate can of worms. i'm afraid i would derail the thread if i proposed any ideas for a solution, so i'll save it for another thread.

legal marijuana, however, would create a large number of new jobs. it would eliminate some, too, but my guess is that the net would be significantly positive, and would provide tax revenue rather than wasting it on failed pot prohibition.
 
Poltics are strange. Who would expect this from a republican? Obama is too chicken **** to say it. In fact a lot of raids were conducted on medical marijuanna dealers in california since he has been in office. It does make me wonder if I should vote republicab, though.

I renember when bush signed one of the most liberal social laws of the 21st century, Medicare, part B, prescription drug program for which I am a very grateful liberally inclinded individual.

Go figure.
 
LiberalAvenger said:
Poltics are strange. Who would expect this from a republican? Obama is too chicken **** to say it. In fact a lot of raids were conducted on medical marijuanna dealers in california since he has been in office. It does make me wonder if I should vote republicab, though.

I renember when bush signed one of the most liberal social laws of the 21st century, Medicare, part B, prescription drug program for which I am a very grateful liberally inclinded individual.

Go figure.
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That right there is why I cannot vote for a Republican candidate any more than I can for a Democrat candidate. Neither party has any morals or values anymore.
 
Tigger said:
That right there is why I cannot vote for a Republican candidate any more than I can for a Democrat candidate. Neither party has any morals or values anymore.
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NO!

They just don't have YOUR moral values.

There's a difference.

Yours are based off a delusion.

Nothing in reality.
 
Jetboogieman said:
NO! They just don't have YOUR moral values. There's a difference. Yours are based off a delusion. Nothing in reality.
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MY Morals and Values are the only ones that exist in MY reality, so that's really all I can judge them on, now isn't it?
 
Tigger said:
Just one more reason NOT TO vote for Romney/Paul in November.
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Actually I'd say its one of the few reasons to vote for them.
 
Tigger said:
That right there is why I cannot vote for a Republican candidate any more than I can for a Democrat candidate. Neither party has any morals or values anymore.
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Its a constitutional argument. We dont need more politicians who respond with knee-jerk emotionalism.
 
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