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What race are American Indians?
Washington isn't in question here. It's the use of the term redskin.
And this has already been shown to be nothing more than a whitewashing. Redskin has clear implications of race and little to do with "warrior".
There is no PC police. Just people trying hard to be a victim who need a bogeyman to blame. It's all in your head.
Tell that to the little boy who was suspended from a public school for eating a pop tart into the rough shape of a gun. And another little boy who was suspended for pointing his finger at another student and saying: "bang".
I hate it when you come into a thread without reading. But here it is again:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...ls-redskins-trademarks-57.html#post1063422665
Again, your statement is easily proven false.
Did you read how the name came about? It was in one of my posts to you. Someone also posted on this threat a poll done by Gallup I think of Native Americans/Indians which 90% said the name means nothing to them. 90% finds it inoffensive. Perhaps 10% is enough to try to get it changed, I don't know. But there is a certain segment of our society that will take offensive at anything.
Being they tried to get the Braves to change their name, that stiffens my back to this change. Then we usually find out the ones pushing for the change is some white guy with nothing better to do than to think such and such should be offended by such and such name. When they aren't, it makes no difference to that white pushing it as he then thinks they are dumb for not being offended. At least that is how it was 15 years ago when the push was put on trying to get the Braves to change their name.
Now the patent office, it has to be another goody two shoes behind that. But you're right, this might be a younger generation thing where us, at least me, old farts can't see or tell the difference. It all seems so asinine to go after a sports team nickname and logo. Like no one has anything better to do.
Why are you using a definition from 1898 when things have obviously changed?
Right. The team never even existed at that time but if we're determined enough to look for slights somewhere I suppose we can find them. Some try to keep the past alive only in order to poison the present.
PC police does not exist. People make decisions good and bad everyday for whatever reason. Declaring there is this organized crew doing something just because someone in Whothefukknowswhere, Oklahoma made a judgement call they thought was prudent at the time... it's ridiculous. There is no PC police. Just people you disagree with who you wish to make seem bigger than they are. You are not a victim.
My earlier point was that White men were discriminated against in that the Irish and Jewish White men were treated rather badly when they came to the US.
Now because they have advanced and are for the most part successful, they no longer have a right to complain about anything.
In this case, maybe at one time, like back in 1898, the term Redskin had a derogatory connotation, but it doesn't anymore, so why is anybody upset about the team using the Word?
Before the law but not before society. Hello, welcome to the awareness of racism.
What makes you think that it's no longer derogatory?My earlier point was that White men were discriminated against in that the Irish and Jewish White men were treated rather badly when they came to the US.
Now because they have advanced and are for the most part successful, they no longer have a right to complain about anything.
In this case, maybe at one time, like back in 1898, the term Redskin had a derogatory connotation, but it doesn't anymore, so why is anybody upset about the team using the Word?
What I am saying is that in the past, no one thought twice about using "faggot" or "queer" in a derogatory fashion. Gay folks were a virtually invisible group. There was no resistance. The offense wasn't large enough for people to take notice or think was worth addressing. Even farther back people had the same attitude about using the n-word. When minority groups are marginalized in this fashion it takes people in the majority population to help get their cause noticed. It takes time to build up a resistance to the tyranny of the majority.
You also lost Gavin Floyd for the season tonite with a broken right arm .
As you noted earlier, back when ESPN tried to call the Braves the Bravos but it did not stick? I just read that several newspapers are claiming they will no longer call the redskins by their names, in their publications. Which sounds like a guaranteed way to turn off lot of readers at a time when newspapers are having a hard time staying in business in the first place. Should be interesting to see what comes of the inevitable court case coming from Synder.
I might have told you about Dad being stationed in Richmond during the '50s--they still have the AAA Braves.
And grew up with the Boston Braves in Maine--don't remember any problem with that name.
Just add a great word like "PRIDE" after the Redskin logo and gear, as a new beginning.
"INSPIRE" is another great word that does justice to all races and ethnics.
I'll try to track down my 10 Indian commandmants poster .
I am sure they see some compensation in the future.
If this was a AAA baseball team or a college team that makes nomoney, they wouldn't have wasted their time.
No matter what we do ...someone ...a 1% or less will be offended ..to NOT , never hurt anyone's feeling, IMO, is impossible..I feel that the US government just got itself a HUGE civil lawsuit from the owners of the Washington Redskins. I'm not a patent attorney, but I feel sure that 'not hurting someone's feelings' aren't mentioned in the requirements for a trademark.
Who will you liberals go after next? The Cleveland Browns? You can probably find at least one or two African Americans offended by that name.
Then why wait 47 years for the change?
So when's the lawsuit against cracker barrel?
The Cleveland Browns was named in reference to Brownies, a mythical race of pixie like fey. While laughably ridiculous as the name of a FOOTBALL team, it's not referencing a race. So this is kind of a strange argument.
The Cleveland Browns were named after Paul Brown, their founder.
It was a bit of sarcasm.
There is no such thing as PC police. Anyone pushing that whiny diatribe is doing nothing but playing the victim card. No one is out to get you. There are no PC police. You can say all the heinous crap you want... just like you did in that last post... and I'll bet that there have been no police knocking on your door since you said that heinous crap have there?
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