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The organization behind this scheme is called the Cordoba initiative and the building is to be called Cordoba House. And this is because Cordoba is the city in southern Spain where muslims built there first great mosque at the start of and as a symbol of thier conquest of Spain. The Ground Zero mosque is intended to servr the same purpose in America. Building mosques on conquered sacred ground is standard practice, its what Islam has always done to assert its supremacy and that is whats happening here.
All religions can be made to look "deranged, psychotic and supremacist religion" just look the Westboro Baptist Church and I believe that at least 50% of Christians want the 10 commandments to be displayed in courthouses.The news is almost as shocking as the atrocity itself. Apologists may say the people who attend the mosque won't be violent, but Islam itself is a deranged, psychotic and supremacist religion. The website PROPHET OF DOOM, amongst others, highlights many a link between Islam and Nazism.
Except one religion does indeed have an Inordinate problem with violence.All religions can be made to look "deranged, psychotic and supremacist religion" just look the Westboro Baptist Church and I believe that at least 50% of Christians want the 10 commandments to be displayed in courthouses.
just remember almost 30% of any group is radical and is illogical in their believes we cant discriminate ageist the other 70% due to the actions of the 30%
I think you not only need to look again, but Look at the last 500 years to be relevant and forthright;In 2001, a group of extremist Muslims hijacked four airplanes, destroying the World Trade Center and damaging the Pentagon.
In the 11th, 12th, and 13th centuries, the actual organization of the Catholic Church embarked upon nine Crusades in the holy land. The religious zeal generated by these crusades led to the deaths of tens, possibly hundreds of thousands of people.
And other than that, the numerous inquisitions spearheaded by the Catholic Church led to numerous deaths, the suppression of free speech and liberty, and the ideals of the enlightenment.
If we look at history as a whole, the Catholic Church has been much more violent, deranged, and suppressive.
There are Catholic Churches in Jerusalem. Why not have a mosque in New York City? In the land of the free, do they not have the right?
Wanted: a Muslim Reformation
National Post (Canada)
Sept 26, 2003
No religion has a monopoly on violence. Christianity has the Spanish Inquisition and the bloody excesses of the Crusades...."
But it will Not do to take the Politically Correct course and Lump all Religions in the Same basket, at least not insofar as our own era is concerned. Christian civilization underwent a Reformation in the 16th century, embraced the Enlightenment with its intellectual and theological pluralism, separated Church from State and encouraged scholarship and democracy. Judaism has followed a similar process -- as have, more recently, the faiths of the far East. Islam, on the other hand, is still struggling with this transition. And if there is to be peace in the Middle East and an end to terror worldwide, Muslims must accept that their faith is overdue for a doctrinal overhaul...."
"....Christianity still has its fanatical, bigoted elements. But those Christians who advocate the slaughter of non-believers make up an almost imperceptibly tiny fraction of the faithful. Much is made of the intolerant pronouncements of high-profile evangelists. A few deranged anti-abortion snipers aside, however, this is just talk. Even terrorists that claim to be part of the Christian world-- such as Spain's Basque extremists and America's Timothy McVeigh-- typically do not operate under any sort of religious aegis.
By contrast, a Large minority of the world's one billion Muslims still adhere to militant interpretations of their faith, including the Wahabi sect of Sunni Islam, centred in and spread by Saudi Arabia. These interpretations all embrace as a central tenet the duty of jihad -- which, despite whitewashing efforts in the West, continues to mean what it has meant since the 7th century: the slaughter or forced conversion of non-Muslim "infidels." With few exceptions -- such as old-school Palestinian terrorists who cling to Marxist rhetoric -- Muslim terrorist groups all explicitly take Islam as their inspiration. Osama bin Laden is a Hero to Hundreds of Millions of Muslims, and al-Qaeda continues to receive financing from a wide array of Muslim charities. Christians kill. Jews kill. Hindus kill. But no other faith group on the planet has embraced random slaughter in anything approaching the manner of radicalized Muslims.
The mainstream Arabic media is shot through with the most extreme sort of Hatred...
"Muslim advocacy organizations in the West, including Canada's own Canadian Islamic Congress, typically reject the claim that there is a problem with contemporary Islam, preferring to lay the world's problems at the feet of Israel and U.S. foreign policy.
Indeed, any Critical Scrutiny of their Religion is decried as "Bigotry"..... But it is evident these commentators are putting pride of faith above Truth.
The celebrations in the Islamic world on Sept. 11, 2001...."
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1. You're completely OFF topic of Islamic violence and ANY religous violence.You speak as if every practitioner of Islam is a member of Al Qaeda. This is the propaganda fed to us by the American right. They breed an image of the enemy of the state that demonizes them, makes them seen as though they are less than human. Think I'm lying? Please look at the pictures in these links:American propaganda during World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaAttack on a Caucasion Woman. Anonymous. Caricature.Posters - World War I poster: Destroy This Mad BrutePosters - No Time to Let Loose: It's a Fight to theFinishPosters -Jap trapand finally, and interesting little article here:The Kaiser As The Beast Of Berlin: Race And The Animalizing Of German Ness In Early Hollywood's Advertising Imagery - Research and Read Books, Journals, Articles at Questia Online LibraryPropaganda by the government is nothing new.
Back on topic, however, a number of Muslims in the Middle East are still very angry with the Western world. The question arises, why? Quite simply, the West has been nothing but trouble for the Middle East and the Muslim world ever since the beginning of the 20th Century. Some examples:
Anglo-Persian Oil Company - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Middle East Theatre of World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
1953 Iranian coup d'état - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I would like to draw special attention to that last one, Operation Ajax, the coup supported by the West that overthrew a DEMOCRATICALLY elected government and installed an absolute dictator. Why? Oil. We were willing to take away the freedom of the people of Iran to save our oil. And you wonder why the Middle East hates us? You wonder why sects of Islam have been persecuted so much that they commit violent acts against the West, and even their countrymen who are against them? You wonder why the 1979 Iranian Revolution occurred? It is because we oppressed them in the first place. Khomeni is our fault. Ahmadinejad is our fault.
Why not have a mosque in New York City? In the land of the free, do they not have the right?
All religions can be made to look "deranged, psychotic and supremacist religion" just look the Westboro Baptist Church and I believe that at least 50% of Christians want the 10 commandments to be displayed in courthouses.
just remember almost 30% of any group is radical and is illogical in their believes we cant discriminate ageist the other 70% due to the actions of the 30%
That depends. Do you own the land that Auschwitz sits on? In that case, though I'm unfamiliar with the Polish land code, if you own a piece of land, it belongs to you and you can do whatever you want to it, so long as it does not physically harm others. That's freedom of expression, freedom of speech, and, in the mosque's case, freedom of religion. It might make people unhappy, but that doesn't really matter. What matters is the sovereignty of owned land.
I'd like to compare the number of people who have been slaughtered by the sword by a Christian compared to the number of people killed by a suicide bomb by a Muslim.
I think this shouldn't be looked at as one single religion but religion as a whole, it's bad stuff people, bad stuff.
In the 11th, 12th, and 13th centuries, the actual organization of the Catholic Church embarked upon nine Crusades in the holy land. The religious zeal generated by these crusades led to the deaths of tens, possibly hundreds of thousands of people.
And other than that, the numerous inquisitions spearheaded by the Catholic Church led to numerous deaths, the suppression of free speech and liberty, and the ideals of the enlightenment.
If we look at history as a whole, the Catholic Church has been much more violent, deranged, and suppressive.
There are Catholic Churches in Jerusalem. Why not have a mosque in New York City? In the land of the free, do they not have the right?
You would have to specify time period.Interesting. Since you've decided to play that card...how many Christians do you think have died for no other reason than their faith?
Except your question, isn't the only issue brought up by the OP.I've heard a lot about suicide bombings, beheadings, and suppression of women. Now, how exactly is this organization connected with this?
That depends. Do you own the land that Auschwitz sits on? In that case, though I'm unfamiliar with the Polish land code, if you own a piece of land, it belongs to you and you can do whatever you want to it, so long as it does not physically harm others. That's freedom of expression, freedom of speech, and, in the mosque's case, freedom of religion. It might make people unhappy, but that doesn't really matter. What matters is the sovereignty of owned land.
Except your question, isn't the only issue brought up by the OP.
It's whether it's an affront (even generally) to some to have a large mosque near where thousands of people were killed in the name of the faith that's building it.
No one has suggested this group is terroristic nor is the topic limited to that issue.
Nice try to stop the unforunate facts tho.
Similar issues would come up if Germany planned to build their embassy in Israel next to say, the Yad Vashem Museum.....
OR the Japanese their's, near the entrance to the 'Arizona Memorial' in Pearl Harbor.
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