it's quite accurate. but prove me wrong. offer facts which will undermine my assertion
the comparison to the US is regarding proxies. it appears some would insist that because iran provides assistance to those "proxies" aligned with its interests, we must conclude that iran is thus engaged in warfare
using that rationale, we must also then conclude the US has been in perennial war via our own array of proxies across the globe
you present as fact that the proxies intent is to obliterate israel. please prove this. until you do, it cannot be accepted as the "fact" you insist it to beThere have been two facts offered in the discussion:
1. Iran created, funds, trains, supplies, etc various groups such as Hezbolla.
The fact that Iran provides assistance to certain proxies aligned with its interest is not necessarily a bad thing. However, using common sense rather than Noam Chomskism we see that the interests Iran is funding are a) not aligned with our own and b) are regarded as militant groups wishing to "obliterate" a certain sovereign nation (Israel). Thus we conclude that saying Iran has not taken military action in 200 years against a sovereign is misleading at best and wrong at worst.
iran/qods has not initiated war on the USA. and that is because iran has not initiated a war against any sovereign nation in almost two centuries2. Iran's Qods force has been invloved in military action with the US
This directly refutes the idea the Iran has not had any military action in 200 years.
you present as fact that the proxies intent is to obliterate israel. please prove this. until you do, it cannot be accepted as the "fact" you insist it to be
iran/qods has not initiated war on the USA. and that is because iran has not initiated a war against any sovereign nation in almost two centuries
not gonna happenwhat? Hezbollahs' Charter is to Destroy Israel. That is why THEY say they were founded.
:roll: first you needed to have the Hezbollah - Iran connection demonstrated to you, and now this. You may want to step out of this conversation while you are still way, way behind.
and all this time i thought we were fighting al qaeda and the taliban which protects them. now you tell me we are there for a decade fighting iranian proxies. what next, going to insist they also possess weapons of mass destructionoh, that's cute. circular argumentation: it's true because it's true :roll: I guess all those Qods guys in Iraq and Afghanistan shooting and bombing US troops are taking personal vacation time.
:doh
Right, well. Once you start accusing reality of being Zionist Propaganda, I think the possibility of rational debate is pretty much gone.
If you're talking about Israel here then I would like to see your proof.[...] at the behest of a nation which has a nuclear arsenal [...]
that it is at israel's urgingIf you're talking about Israel here then I would like to see your proof.
The later.that it is at israel's urging
or
that israel is a nuclear power
so, what you are saying is they provide backing to those with ideologies aligned with their own just as the USA does
so, what they do is wrong while when we do it then it is good?
we must also then conclude the US has been in perennial war via our own array of proxies across the globe
Glenn Greenwald: The Growing Iranian Military Behemoth | loonwatch.com
Iran is a military threat to the US like Iraq was a military threat to the US.
I argree. unless they have long range nukes the home front shouldnt be too concerned. It is more of a economic problem considering their roll in OPEC
I argree. unless they have long range nukes the home front shouldnt be too concerned. It is more of a economic problem considering their roll in OPEC
That's of no concern to the US military either as Iran has not shown itself to be suicidal in the past.
That's why they'll use a deniable proxy!
:doh
Who is the deniable proxy that you see as a military threat to the US military, Swami?
well, there would be the one currently engaged in military operations against the US military, sahib.
Afraid I'm not privy on the latest boogyman according to the far right. Who is the mystery threat to the US military?
:roll: yeesh. first bubba, now you.
if you have no idea what you are talking about, you probably shouldn't play. Oh, and you asked for a deniable proxy.
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