Palin? But Why?

[the makeout hobo]

A lot of our more conservative posters have been remarking about how great Sarah Palin could be of a candidate if she would only get her act together a bit more... I do have to ask the question: what has Palin done that would prove she would be a great candidate or great president?

 

[mikhail]

I think there 2 different questions a great president? Only if there is major advances in being able to improve IQ,combined with a personality transplant.

But she could certainly win the republican nomination.

 

[Bonnie1988]

Once again, the status quo of government won. Obama did more for the status quo than anyone else could have. More than anyone, he can escalate troop fighting and presence in the Persian Gulf region - and has vowed to do so with no deadline - Afghanistan and to stir up Pakistan - PLUS increase the military by 100,000 troops.

People would have condemned Bush for escalating, but cheer Obama doing so. Obama supports FISA - domestic spying, NAFTA, trillions free money and tax exemptions to billions - all things people would roar if Bush did it alone, but cheer when Obama does so and promises to do so. ANYTHING Obama is for, the mob is for.

Palin is not part of Washington. Her political history is anti-establishment, anti-Republican establishment, and very populist. She delivered on promises, fired administrations in mass keeping her promises of change, and believes it is people, not government, who own natural resources.

Obama didn't represent change, nor did McCain. Obama is the continuation of the government of Dick Cheney - who best than Dick Cheney's nephew? But presenting Dick Cheney's agenda as from the left, rather than the right, accomplishes more for Wall Street, the status quo of administrative government and the power of government and of the military industrial complex than any Republican insider could obtain.

The biggest advantage Palin would offer is that so far no one has been able to buy her. She declined all special interests money, openly fought Big Oil and Republican bosses and in a rarity in politics for those reasons.

Other than more tens and hundreds of billions more dollars to the super rich and mega billionaire corporations, exactly what change has Obama offered? He is Dick Cheney times 2, with the ability to get people to cheer his doing so.

 

[Cilogy]

A lot of our more conservative posters have been remarking about how great Sarah Palin could be of a candidate if she would only get her act together a bit more... I do have to ask the question: what has Palin done that would prove she would be a great candidate or great president?

She hasn't done much, and I feel bad for Republicans all over the U.S.

Reps can have someone better, much better than Ms. Winky the Maverick.

At this point she has stained her image so badly that she cannot 'get her act together' for 2012 or beyond. I don't hate or dislike Reps, in fact I want the GOP to have a good nominee, so that everyone is happy.

Once again, the status quo of government won. Obama did more for the status quo than anyone else could have. More than anyone, he can escalate troop fighting and presence in the Persian Gulf region - and has vowed to do so with no deadline - Afghanistan and to stir up Pakistan - PLUS increase the military by 100,000 troops.

People would have condemned Bush for escalating, but cheer Obama doing so. Obama supports FISA - domestic spying, NAFTA, trillions free money and tax exemptions to billions - all things people would roar if Bush did it alone, but cheer when Obama does so and promises to do so. ANYTHING Obama is for, the mob is for.

Palin is not part of Washington. Her political history is anti-establishment, anti-Republican establishment, and very populist. She delivered on promises, fired administrations in mass keeping her promises of change, and believes it is people, not government, who own natural resources.

Obama didn't represent change, nor did McCain. Obama is the continuation of the government of Dick Cheney - who best than Dick Cheney's nephew? But presenting Dick Cheney's agenda as from the left, rather than the right, accomplishes more for Wall Street, the status quo of administrative government and the power of government and of the military industrial complex than any Republican insider could obtain.

The biggest advantage Palin would offer is that so far no one has been able to buy her. She declined all special interests money, openly fought Big Oil and Republican bosses and in a rarity in politics for those reasons.

Other than more tens and hundreds of billions more dollars to the super rich and mega billionaire corporations, exactly what change has Obama offered? He is Dick Cheney times 2, with the ability to get people to cheer his doing so.

Obama is Cheney times 2? :shock: Cheney is a Republican, Obama is a Democrat. Saying Obama doesn't represent change is like saying 'smoking is extremely healthy for you.'

Obama represents not only change from the last 8 years of hilarity, but also change from 'old school politics,' a more diplomatic stance rather than war making.

Is the Mob for tax cuts of nearly 95% of working Americans? Is the Mob for diplomatic reasoning rather than aggressive war mongering? Is the Mob for making sure education of children is held high on the priority list?



This is ridiclous, saying Obama is NOT for change? :doh That was his main slogan. Wow.

 

[Shewter]

who best than Dick Cheney's nephew?

Do YOU even believe what you say anymore? Good god. I don't know who let you on the internet but darnet, they need to be fired.

 

[Sergeant Stinger1]

A lot of our more conservative posters have been remarking about how great Sarah Palin could be of a candidate if she would only get her act together a bit more... I do have to ask the question: what has Palin done that would prove she would be a great candidate or great president?

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Nothing.

 

[Lightdemon]

Quite ironic how only a year ago they blasted Obama for having so little experience, and McCain so many years of experience.

For some reason Palin has enough experience. :roll:

 

[1069]

Obama is the continuation of the government of Dick Cheney - who best than Dick Cheney's nephew?

Bonnie, would you care to explain or expand upon this comment?
Because as it stands, you seem to be claiming that Stanley Ann Dunham was Dick Cheney's sister? And that Madelyn Dunham, who died two weeks ago, was actually Dick Cheney's mother, as well as being Obama's grandmother?

That must be what you mean, since you surely wouldn't be foolhardy enough to suggest that Vice President Dick Cheney could be the brother of Obama's Kenyan father.

 

[aps]

Bonnie, would you care to explain or expand upon this comment?
Because as it stands, you seem to be claiming that Stanley Ann Dunham was Dick Cheney's sister? And that Madelyn Dunham, who died two weeks ago, was actually Dick Cheney's mother, as well as being Obama's grandmother?

That must be what you mean, since you surely wouldn't be foolhardy enough to suggest that Vice President Dick Cheney could be the brother of Obama's Kenyan father.

I see she hasn't answered your question. Shocker. NOT.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

She stated once that "everytime we enact a new law we lose a little bit of our freedom"...



That right there is not something you here from politicians today.

 

[UtahBill]

The bar has been lowered for GOP candidates as of the first GWB election, it got lowered a bit more on his second win. Clearly that is no longer working for the GOP, so they are dropping the bar even lower. Next thing you know, one of own DP forum members will be nominated, make your own assumptions who I might be talking about...
What was that about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?:2razz:

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

The bar has been lowered for GOP candidates as of the first GWB election, it got lowered a bit more on his second win. Clearly that is no longer working for the GOP, so they are dropping the bar even lower. Next thing you know, one of own DP forum members will be nominated, make your own assumptions who I might be talking about...
What was that about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?:2razz:

See this is what is wrong with the left. The further away you get from liberal elitists you call "lowering the bar"....


I for one think someone like Donsutherland would make a decent president as would many here on the forums...


I don't buy into the zeuss on the mount mentality you put your politicians on.

 

[UtahBill]

See this is what is wrong with the left. The further away you get from liberal elitists you call "lowering the bar"....


I for one think someone like Donsutherland would make a decent president as would many here on the forums...


I don't buy into the zeuss on the mount mentality you put your politicians on.

are you calling me a liberal elitest? if so, you are way off the mark.
Zeuss, as in the Doctor?:2razz:
I don't think it is too much to expect the GOP to present the pick of the litter for us, instead of the retarded runt....

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

are you calling me a liberal elitest? if so, you are way off the mark.
Zeuss, as in the Doctor?:2razz:
I don't think it is too much to expect the GOP to present the pick of the litter for us, instead of the retarded runt....

Nah, I am calling you a shill currently for Obama.



As for the retarded runt, it's better than a racist commie. :2wave:

 

[GOP Socialist Soldier]

As a voter for McCain, I really didn't understand the Palin hype; I see her VP nomination as an appeal to mostly female moderate voters who wanted Hillary, that's all. Her 10 minutes are done.

 

[UtahBill]

Nah, I am calling you a shill currently for Obama.



As for the retarded runt, it's better than a racist commie. :2wave:

I voted for McCain, you probably did as well..
John lost, get over it.
I will wait til Obama screws up to complain, as I did with the shrub.
You eagerly anticipate it, hope it, wish it.
How patriotic, no make that idiotic.....:2wave:

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

I voted for McCain, you probably did as well..[
John lost, get over it.

Good for you, I did not vote McCain. Does not change the fact you seem to be shilling for dear leader now.

I will wait til Obama screws up to complain, as I did with the shrub.
You eagerly anticipate it, hope it, wish it.
How patriotic, no make that idiotic.....:2wave:

ooh Someone dares criticize dear leader he must be "idiotic", thats an intelligent response bill. :roll:


What have I criticized him for thus far?


1. his relationships.
2. his cabinet picks.
3. his lies about him being all about change.


All supported by evidence and backed up with links and commentary. All valid.



What is your problem with me discussing the president elect on a freaking debate forum???? :doh:roll:

 

[UtahBill]

Good for you, I did not vote McCain. Does not change the fact you seem to be shilling for dear leader now.






ooh Someone dares criticize dear leader he must be "idiotic", thats an intelligent response bill. :roll:


What have I criticized him for thus far?


1. his relationships.
2. his cabinet picks.
3. his lies about him being all about change.


All supported by evidence and backed up with links and commentary. All valid.



What is your problem with me discussing the president elect on a freaking debate forum???? :doh:roll:

you are discussing? is that what you call it? The OP is about Palin, I compared her to the shrub. How did you get off on Obama?
Oh, wait, your incoherent posting is how you get off.:2razz:

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

you are discussing? is that what you call it? The OP is about Palin, I compared her to the shrub. How did you get off on Obama?
Oh, wait, your incoherent posting is how you get off.:2razz:

I made a comparison to demonstrate your hypocrisy, you chose to make it a tangent and start discussing me and not the topic. See the election is over yet here you are still being quite rude about the former canidate. And we have to hear people like CC say its all the right that keep on talking about palin.:roll: :2wave:

 

[UtahBill]

I made a comparison to demonstrate your hypocrisy, you chose to make it a tangent and start discussing me and not the topic. See the election is over yet here you are still being quite rude about the former canidate. And we have to hear people like CC say its all the right that keep on talking about palin.:roll: :2wave:

I was "rude" about the former president, not the former candidate.
But since you brought up rude, John McCain ran one of the rudest campaigns ever.
Obama did not win the election as much as the GOP lost it. They started losing it when they gave us GWB to vote for, instead of John McCain.
They lost it further when they didn't police their own ranks, when they failed to address corruption in the political arena, and on Wall Street.
For 8 years the GOP was "losing it", so how could they expect to win in 2008? Were they counting on the DNC putting up another Gore or Kerry?
Seems the Dems learn from THEIR mistakes....
The GOP doesn't even know that they have made mistakes.
We, those on the right, and moderates like me who lean right, have until the next election cycle to clean up the mess we have made, but I am willing to bet that the GOP has to have its ass whupped again in 2010 before they see the light....

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Who was the "retarded runt"?


What do you think of Palin?

 

[UtahBill]

Who was the "retarded runt"?


What do you think of Palin?

GWB, and I know he graduated B school, but before that he got barely passing grades as an undergrad....
Lazy might be more accurate, but retarded runt sounds better...and is the opposite of "pick of the litter". I can see how that might have been construed to mean McCain. My mistake...

Palin is a good choice for governor, or even senator, but not president....not yet. She has a lot of learning to do first...
Right now, empty skirt is the term that the Dems will use to describe her...

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

GWB, and I know he graduated B school, but before that he got barely passing grades as an undergrad....
Lazy might be more accurate, but retarded runt sounds better...and is the opposite of "pick of the litter". I can see how that might have been construed to mean McCain. My mistake...

Palin is a good choice for governor, or even senator, but not president....not yet. She has a lot of learning to do first...
Right now, empty skirt is the term that the Dems will use to describe her...

She was as qualified as the empty suit that was elected. She just did not have the media circus helping her like dear leader.

 

[UtahBill]

She was as qualified as the empty suit that was elected. She just did not have the media circus helping her like dear leader.

remains to be seen...as I said, I will wait until he screws up to be critical of his presidency...

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

remains to be seen...as I said, I will wait until he screws up to be critical of his presidency...

oh btw, I am not "critical of his presidency" just his choices thus far compared to his campaign promises. :2wave: