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Then I would suggest that we focus on here, and not overseas. We are wasting money and lives fighting battles for them, when he have our own crap to deal with.
I'm not certain that in this politically correct environment that much can be done. When political leadership refuses to even acknowledge terrorism when American lives are taken then it seems unlikely that there is the necessary will to deal with that crap you mention.
Well, that pretty much bolsters my position that we shouldn't be over there either. If we are unwilling to deal with our domestic terrorist issues, why in the hell would we think we can be effective in the ME?
I agree with you, Lizzie, in principle, but it seems to me that there isn't the will to fight overseas nor is there a sustained public consensus to fight the problems at home. The ACLU and other like-minded groups, including the media, would be doing whatever they can to prevent the American people from acting in their own best interests.
Unfortunately, you are probably right about that. It will have to reach a near-critical level before anyone would do anything. So far, I haven't been hearing of anything that seems to inspire any real fear. I guess we'll just have a wait and see approach. It may not amount to anything, but if it does, in sufficient quantity, something/someone will be forced to resolve it, just due to public outcry if nothing else. I'm just hoping that we don't give up our freedoms, for the sake of it. That's my primary concern at this point in time.
I have a similar story from a buddy of mine who was in the 101st. He absolutely hates afghans. Specifically, actually. He also did a tour in Iraq, but had nothing too awfully negative to say about them...but he HATES afghans, for the exact reason you cited...a willful determination to remain ignorant. He hated talking to them, dealing with them, etc. Before he got wounded, he said if he had to do ONE MORE tour there, he was gonna quit.
But here is the problem with that attitude: that brave young girl who is trying to make the world a better place...she is an Afghan. From what I have read about her activism over the past few days she is easily a better person than the vast majority of Americans, including myself. And there are others like her. We shouldn't discount them.
As long as regular Muslims do not stand up to these animals then people will think that Muslims as a whole condone these animals.
I am not personally willing to invest US tax dollars to fix problems which cannot be fixed by US tax dollars. It's not as if there is mass genocide happening over there, or as if something totally new and unexpected is going on, but that is not the case. We could stay there forever, and waste money and the lives of our own young men, for a bunch of people who don't even like us, and to me, that is insane. We aren't the appointed savior of the world, nor should we be. We can't even afford to take care of ourselves anymore, for God's sake.
The thing is, there are people like there here in the US, and we have had a longer time to adjust to the idea of freedom.
But conservatives in the US are at least educated. . .
Todd Akin on abortion: Not backing off claim that women who aren't pregnant get the procedure.
But conservatives in the US are at least educated. . .
Todd Akin on abortion: Not backing off claim that women who aren't pregnant get the procedure.
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I fail to see what this post has to do with anything remotely relevant to this particular thread.
Opposition to education grounded in misogyny seems alive and well in the US, much as it does in Afghanistan.
As far as I'm concerned, people with your attitude are enablers of the Taliban and the backwards ass barbaric atrocities they commit. I refuse to accept the position of standing by while brave men and women like Malala Yousufzai languish under oppression and tyranny simply because they lack the means to free themselves from their bonds.
Don't tell me we have more pressing problems at home. The problems we face as Americans are not comparable to those faced by oppressed groups like women under the Taliban and other fundamentalist societies. I know that's not a popular position for Americans to hear, but it's true.
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Yes, it's graphic. I don't care. People need to see such photographs. There's a growing epidemic of young Afghan women trapped in a world of unimaginable abuse who attempt suicide by self immolation. Google it. I can't imagine what kind of person says they can't spare any taxpayer money to help individuals facing such a hopeless plight.
Horrible, horrible people. When I was there they burned down a local girls' school that we helped build. They are intent to stay in the middle ages, and there they will stay.
I'm of the long held belief that we should've never been there in the f***ing first place.1.4 million Iraqi civilians slaughtered since the US illegal invasion in 2003
Youre right - horrible, horrible people
something must be done about it
I don't expect anything of them at all. I just believe they should be taking care of their own issues, and we should mind our own business. It's a cold cruel world out there, and the only thing that can change people, are the people themselves. Their culture is not ready for change on a grand scale, or they would already be making the transition.
I agree. We need to mind our own business. Their way of life is not ours and nothing we do, give, or force upon them will change their way of life until they as a people are willing to rise up and make those changes themselves.
Easier said than done. We tried that against the Nazis, Fascists and Communists and finally there had to be a confrontation or millions more would have died.
Easier said than done. We tried that against the Nazis, Fascists and Communists and finally there had to be a confrontation or millions more would have died.
Have you opened a newspaper today?
Protests throughout Pakistan condemning Taliban attack | Video | Reuters.com
Pakistan vows to punish Taliban over attack on teenager | Video | Reuters.com
BBC News - Malala Yousafzai: Reward offered for arrest of attackers
BBC News - Pakistan media condemn attack on teenage activist
Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
Why do people bother starting threads like this? Everyone knows the Taliban murders women, children and men for wrong thinking or being the wrong gender or saying the wrong thing or not saying the right thing - and 1000 other reasons given for murder.
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