Pakistan’s Collapse, Our Problem

[danarhea]

Fredrick W. Kagan, who is a member of the American Enterprise Institute, and a member of PNAC is pushing a new idea, along with Michael O'Hanlan. Bombing Pakistan. Their arguments are WMD's, which Pakistan certainly has. Needless to say, the Bush administration has in the past, firmly embraced AEI and PNAC, in their rhetoric to invade Iraq and attack Iran. An attack on Iran may or may not happen, but the real good news here is that Bush and the NeoNuts will be long gone from government before they would have the capability to attack Pakistan and unleash a nuclear WWIII in the Middle East. Was Bush's father correct when he called these wackos "the crazies in the basement"? Absolutely - His own statement is validated by statements from the crazies themselves.

Article is here.

 

[Cold Highway]

If Pakistan falls into the wrong hands we better be ready to go in there.

 

[Hatuey]

If Pakistan falls into the wrong hands we better be ready to go in there.

Right. With a few million extremists already living there that would be suicide. Our army can be stretched but Iraq, Afghanistan AND Pakistan? Not to mention the very possibility of bringing half of the Middle East out to fight us head on? It's suicide. China and Russia won't back us. Who the hell are we going to rely on? France? Yeah right. I can see the white flags in Paris from my house in Vermont.

 

[new coup for you]

the AEI is only one step above the Heritage Foundation, which itself is only one step above the National Front.

 

[Joby]

In all honesty, I think India would have a lot more to worry about some crazies gettin in control of those nukes.

 

[new coup for you]

the danger is that they have access to shipping crates, not missiles.

 

[Joby]

the danger is that they have access to shipping crates, not missiles.

Well, as long as we have that border secured and all our troops in Iraq there's really no danger. :lol:

It'd be funnier if it weren't so serious.

 

[new coup for you]

I tend to shy from terrorism hysteria, but nuclear attacks using shipping containers does concern me. I don't see how it could be avoided.

 

[Hatuey]

I tend to shy from terrorism hysteria, but nuclear attacks using shipping containers does concern me. I don't see how it could be avoided.

Better national security? The current one isn't workin'.

 

[new coup for you]

Thoroughly checking all the containers that come into this country is impossible.

 

[new coup for you]

Then I guess they'll have to dissasemble their weapons, put them in trucks and move them into India for reassembly and delivery. It wouldn't be hard.

 

[new coup for you]

It would be easy for the US to notice the shipment of some crates across the Pakistani border?

 

[danarhea]

Then I guess they'll have to dissasemble their weapons, put them in trucks and move them into India for reassembly and delivery. It wouldn't be hard.

Across one of the most militarized borders in the world? I don't think so.

 

[new coup for you]

There is actually regular transit across Kashmir, both into India and China.

Alternatively they could take it into Iran, through Iran into Turkey and through one of Turkey's ports to the US.

This really wouldn't be that hard.

 

[bhkad]

the AEI is only one step above the Heritage Foundation, which itself is only one step above the National Front.

Forget about your pissy, petty little hissy fits against Americans trying to save your ***, try to focus on the real problem, Batman. :roll:

 

[bhkad]

Yeah, wake me up when they have ICBMs, India can handle itself

Pakistan Test Fires Long Range Nuclear Capable Missile

Islamabad (AFP) May 01, 2006
Pakistan on Saturday successfully test fired a nuclear capable missile with a range of 2,000 kilometers (1,250 miles), the military said. It was the second test firing of the surface-to-surface Hatf VI (Shaheen II) missile, which was earlier tested in March 2005, it said. Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz witnessed the test carried out from an undisclosed location.

"The missile test was conducted to validate additional technical parameters beyond those that were verified in the last test fire in March 2005," a military statement said.

The Hatf VI is Pakistan's longest range ballistic missile system and has the potential to achieve a range of 2,500 kilometers in an advanced version.

"It is a two stage solid fuel missile which can carry nuclear and conventional warheads with high accuracy," the statement said.

Aziz congratulated the scientists, engineers and the technical staff of Pakistan's Strategic Organisation and said the country's strategic programme would "go from strength to strength."

Regional rivals Pakistan and India have routinely conducted missile tests since their tit-for-tat nuclear detonations in May 1998.

Pakistan Test Fires Long Range Nuclear Capable Missile

Associated Press, February 22, 2001
Pakistan May Put Nukes on Submarines
BY ZAHID HUSSAIN KARACHI

Pakistan -- In what appeared to be the first indication that Pakistan was ready to deploy nuclear weapons, its navy said Thursday that it may put nuclear missiles on its submarines.

Pakistan May Put Nukes on Submarines

The problem with video games is they don't convey the real life repercussions of a nuclear exchange between two countries across the globe from us so many of us think there would be no down side to us of such a war.

They lead us to think it would be as inconsequential as a football game.

Guess again.